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Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 8:33 pm 
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Dave is good. He is BOTTLEDUP on this forum (and many others). He is building a killer XD too.

 

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Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 9:01 pm 
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Dave is good. He is BOTTLEDUP on this forum (and many others). He is building a killer XD too.


Yeah mate thats him, good bloke aye.

 

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Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 8:07 pm 
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Bit of an update here, and a good one at that.
Dropped motor off to A1 this morning and Leon got stuck straight into it. Dave called me and let me know that the engine was fully stripped down to just the bottom end, the sump was off and everything had been cleaned up. They were just ready to slide the cam in and degree it in when they ran into a little trouble, the locating dowel for the cam was missing. So Daves gettin onto that straight away to source another one. Also while i was there Dave and Leon talked me into :lol: a nice set of ford racing rocker covers and a 3/8" phenolic manifold spacer for extra clearance.
So all good news so far, i left them with a digital camera to take some happy snaps throughout the build so once i have them back i'll post some up.
Will keep you guys updated tomorrow and throughout next week.

 

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Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 3:19 pm 
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you'll have different clearance issues with a 3/8 phenolic spacer.
i had a 1/2 inch one on mine and had little clearance to the bonnet. when the engine mount let go the egr plate actually cleaned up the bonnet good and proper. i'd go for a 1/2 inch spacer if you can get away with it over the rocker covers rather than the 3/8 one. just from experience thats all.
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Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 3:43 pm 
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you'll have different clearance issues with a 3/8 phenolic spacer.
i had a 1/2 inch one on mine and had little clearance to the bonnet. when the engine mount let go the egr plate actually cleaned up the bonnet good and proper. i'd go for a 1/2 inch spacer if you can get away with it over the rocker covers rather than the 3/8 one. just from experience thats all.


1/2 inch (12.7mm) is bigger than 3/8 (9.525mm), I am guessing you just got them around the wrong way, unless you meant 1/4 inch (6.35mm) spacer not 1/2 inch.

 

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Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 5:14 pm 
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The 3/8" fits under an XH bonnet, the 1/2" doesn't. ;)

 

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Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 8:38 pm 
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you'll have different clearance issues with a 3/8 phenolic spacer.
i had a 1/2 inch one on mine and had little clearance to the bonnet. when the engine mount let go the egr plate actually cleaned up the bonnet good and proper. i'd go for a 1/2 inch spacer if you can get away with it over the rocker covers rather than the 3/8 one. just from experience thats all.


Yeah ya got me pretty confused there mate, think ya gettin bit mixed up.

3/8" will be the go, should have enough clearance there.

 

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Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 8:39 pm 
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The 3/8" fits under an XH bonnet, the 1/2" doesn't. ;)


s**t didt see ya post mate, there ya go that says it all.

Howd ya go today Dave, anymore progress reports?

 

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Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 11:17 pm 
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the rockers in the pedastool heads are expenseive then the stud mounted rockers...all companies only sell high end rev power and if you want torque you need low end velocity that is small heads, big lift and wide lobe separation (114 degrees at least) and throw in a little bit of compression...this is so basic that companies don't sell it coz it is easier to make it yourself...if ya go with big manifolds and big heads...be prepared to be disappointed as ya will have big end power and no bottom end torque

 

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Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 12:01 am 
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this may be the case if the rest of your motor is resonabley stock but when you start talking about serious motors and some decent performance well you will have good power and tourqe right threw the range you will only be lacking down low if you drive like a girl...and have a gay cam grind .....

 

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Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 2:51 am 
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what do you want to with the car and basically start from there...recommend to start with ya bottom end and work ya way from there...all it takes is a lot of research and knowing what ya want to do with ya car...Don't change ya plans just do more research...there are alot of mechanics that don't bloody know anything about these motors...here's a question tester to see if the mechanic knows anything about windsor: Will a clevland head bolt up to a windsor block??? Answer:(should be) Yes, with easy mods...clevland heads were made for the windsor bloke and the clevo block followed after...

 

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Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 10:28 am 
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mate i new that when i was 16 doesnt mean i new anything about motors it just means i new what a Boss was if you go asking a mechanic a question like that he might think you no f**k all and try and take you for a row...

 

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Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 10:31 am 
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my bad. i think i just confused myself. idiot
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Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 12:33 pm 
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what do you want to with the car and basically start from there...recommend to start with ya bottom end and work ya way from there...all it takes is a lot of research and knowing what ya want to do with ya car...Don't change ya plans just do more research...there are alot of mechanics that don't bloody know anything about these motors...here's a question tester to see if the mechanic knows anything about windsor: Will a clevland head bolt up to a windsor block??? Answer:(should be) Yes, with easy mods...clevland heads were made for the windsor bloke and the clevo block followed after...


Cmon guys, goin a bit off topic here. The combo has been chosen, the research has been done, the blokes behind this build have had much experience with the 5.0L windsor so theres no dramas there, just have to wait and see how the results turn out once its all back together and tuned.

 

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Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 3:38 pm 
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the rockers in the pedastool heads are expenseive then the stud mounted rockers...all companies only sell high end rev power and if you want torque you need low end velocity that is small heads, big lift and wide lobe separation (114 degrees at least) and throw in a little bit of compression...this is so basic that companies don't sell it coz it is easier to make it yourself...if ya go with big manifolds and big heads...be prepared to be disappointed as ya will have big end power and no bottom end torque


With all due respect... You are posting comments without knowing the whole story or the reasons behind them.

 

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