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 Post subject: Re: Huggiebear's NC II Fairlane ghia - going turbo
Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:07 pm 
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Have you thought about running the EA 6 TCM instead? - no ECU Required then


hey nigel, is that the 3speed auto from the EA? i have thought about it, but then i need a new stallie which i might aswell just go to a c4 or c10

 

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 Post subject: Re: Huggiebear's NC II Fairlane ghia - going turbo
Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:09 pm 
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the ea tcm is the 4 speed auto, also the eb v8 has a seperate tcm aswell
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 Post subject: Re: Huggiebear's NC II Fairlane ghia - going turbo
Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:11 pm 
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ahh.. i think its too much wiring for what its worth to be honest. a piggyback or something that i can run with the stock ECU would be best.

 

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Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:15 pm 
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i think the easiest, cheaper option is the ti performance j3 chip option...
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Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:21 pm 
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Agree - the chip is the option. But werent you saying you had an ECU?

The EA TCM should run your 4 speed auto (EA Series II or EB Series One). Not much wiring at all. The only reason Id go that over the EB V8 one is that the 6 Cyl and V8 appear to switch different voltage through the Power/Econ Switch.

In terms of wiring - all the wires you need are already at the ECU connector - you might need to add the additional TPS from an EA.

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 Post subject: Re: Huggiebear's NC II Fairlane ghia - going turbo
Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:28 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Huggiebear's NC II Fairlane ghia - going turbo
Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:53 pm 
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at the current bid, it could be a bargan.. although it still has 5 days to go...
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Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:19 pm 
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Shudder! five days is a long time on Ebay! :shock:

 

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 Post subject: Re: Huggiebear's NC II Fairlane ghia - going turbo
Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 7:28 pm 
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not much to update.. but i thought i better post something.

been with my partner for 12 months on the 29th so to be nice she bought me a welder. its just an ARC welder but its done the job i needed it for.

i spent half my day off work (spent the first half throwing up as you do after eating out the night before.. stupid dodgy restaurant) cutting and tacking my intercooler piping together. altho at first my welding sucked a** its getting better. but in saying that i havnt touched a welder in 7 years and i have never used an ARC welder, only a mig.

i have half of the cold side tacked up, then i received a package from geoff at snort, (no smiley face on the box this time) which had my turbo to dump pipe gasket (which was mistakenly left out of the kit) it also included the exhaust studs, and a fitting welded onto a welsh plug for the water feed... geoff is a champ, and if anyone is after a turbo kit you cant go past the service i have received from him. thumbsup

you will also notice in the pic that i have some green fittings for the water lines. surprisingly enough they are air fittings, when i was about to head off to buy the fittings i seen a fitting from the air tool kit so i thought bugger it ill see if it fits.. PERFECT!!!! and when i walked into bunnings i need anodized fittings for $2.50 each!!! compared to the speedflow fitting on the welsh plug which was $11!!!! even tho you wont see them much its still a nice touch.

then i had a day with my daughter and it rained so no work on the car, but today after work i received 3 parcels, some more silicon joiners and my F6 injectors :D

only pieces left to purchase now is a fuel pump (have one lined up) and the ECU.

im a little undecided on the ECU, i have been speaking to TI Performance about the J3 chip, but im looking at $215 with tuner, where as $445 from the states will get me a EMS piggyback unit.. so im trying to work out which will be the better choice, if i go the J3 now i know ill need to upgrade in the future but it will get me on the road quicker. the EMS will cut out the middle man but will take longer to get on the road.

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all i need to do now is stretch the sump hole for the return feed, plug in the replacement BCM, and the turbo is ready to bolt on!!!

 

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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:08 am 
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Hmm i was wondering where my pipe went to lmao, nah jokes, looks good huggie

 

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 Post subject: Re: Huggiebear's NC II Fairlane ghia - going turbo
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 2:31 pm 
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nice huggiebear, i can't wait to see it fire into like with the turbo on it! :mrgreen:
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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 2:36 pm 
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well i wasnt going to say anything till tonight when i get home, but im about to go pick up an EMS ECU, a dual sport which is the 4484??? or somethings bigger brother.. it will do everything i need it too and more, even has NOS control :P

so ill use it as a piggy back setup so i can keep the BTR for now. should be wired up within 2 weeks along with all the turbo gear on and running :D

 

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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 2:42 pm 
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Dual sport is really old. Probably not the equivalent of a 4484.

Has it been running a on falcon before?

Im pretty sure sphell tried to fit one into his EF and it didnt work out. That was coil packs though. TFI might be a different story.

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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 2:45 pm 
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Way to go Huggie!!!!!!

It is all coming together now mate.

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 Post subject: Re: Huggiebear's NC II Fairlane ghia - going turbo
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:20 pm 
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it came off a CA18, but research online shows its suitable from 4cyl up to 16cyl and 2 or 3 rotors, its also fully upgradable, so providing that it runs the car ok it should be good enough for now. im not really after huge numbers or anything, just a fun car.

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Dual Sport 7.05 laptop compatible

Dual Sport
After 11 years of designing engine management products for high performance competition engines, the people at EMS are proud to release the Dualsport series of programmable Engine Management Computers.
This series embraces the latest technology of ISP (In System Programmability) together with the Motorola Microprocessor, enables it to reconfigure itself for most engines.
Together with the powerful 3D graphical interface, or the Intelligent Interface, the Dual Sport has the power of extreme flexibility and ease of use. The 3D surface graph enables the tuner to get an instant visual representation of the engine's fuel and ignition curves. This visual feedback quickly shows any erroneous data so tuning becomes faster and safer. The graph can be rotated and zoomed to any degree to enhance further detail. The analogue style gauges display real time engine data giving more information at a glance.
EMS has integrated a Data Logging system that the user can call up at a press of a button. The powerful Data Logging application, will log up to 10 selectable parameters, e.g. Rpm, Throttle position, Air/Fuel ratios, etc. and display them in text or graphical format. After logging, the data can be studied in closer detail to see the engines behaviour during any time period of the logging session.

Main Features
• Future Upgradability
• Dual engine setup o Capable of storing 2 separate engine configurations.
• Real Time Programming o Using Hand Piece or Windows lap top program, with uploading and downloading facility.
• Data Logging o User configurable time based graphical trends display with zoom.
• Air/Fuel Ratio o Wide Band lambda Temperature Compensated and Linerised for accuracy.
• Turbo Anti-Lag o Mode 1 - For Rally cars o Mode 2 - For Drag cars
• Engine Immobiliser o With selectable PIN numbers.
• High Boost Capability o The 5 bar version accepts Boost up to 60 psi (410kpa).
• Variable Injector Resolution o Gives finer injector control and smoother engine performance.
• Sync/Async Injector Operation o For crisp throttle response
• Software Selectable Sensor types o Greater engine adaptability.
Built in Features
• Set ups 1 & 2.
• Injector types e.g. Multi-Point or Throttle Body
• Selectable sensor applications e.g. Magnetic, Hall or Optical
• Selectable trigger edges Rising or falling
• Selectable Ignition fire edges Rising or falling
• Selectable Ignition types For special triggers / Igniters
• Changeable Adjustment Pin Numbers For settings lockout
• Selectable No. Cylinders 1 to 16 cyl, 2 and 3 Rotor
• Changeable Security Pin Numbers Engine Immobiliser
• Stage Injection Adjustment Secondary Injectors tuning
• Over Boost Cut Adjustment To save engine (Wastegate fail)
• Over Rev Limit
• Soft limit Rev Limit
• Cut Fuel cut
• Adjustable Ignition Dwell 0 - 5 mS or 50 % duty cycle.
• Engine Status Displays current status of engine. i.e.
• Water temperature in Deg C ( -20 to +235 )
• Air temperature in Deg C ( - 55 to + 200 )
• Manifold pressure in K.P.A (-100 to + 155 )
• Engine RPM ( 0 to 12500 )
• Fuel pulse in milliseconds ( 0 to 16 mS)
• Battery voltage in Volts ( 6.5 to 23 )
• Throttle position in % opening ( 0 to 100 )
• Ignition in Deg. advanced (0 - 51 deg Dual Sport I only)
Inputs
• Built in manifold pressure sensor to measure engine load. Barometric pressure compensation. (Auto compensation for different weather conditions and changes in altitude).
• Internal battery voltage sensing and compensation.
• Air temperature sensing.
• Water temperature sensing.
• Selectable - Hall, magnetic or optical on trigger circuit.
• Selectable - Hall, magnetic or optical on sync circuit.
• Coil pick up (optional F only)
• Throttle position sensing
• Intelligent Interface touch pad OR Laptop.
Outputs
• Adjustable ignition timing ( 0 - 51 Deg. advance in 0.2 Deg. increments).
• Adjustable dwell control ( 0 - 5 mS).
• 4 Ignition outputs for sequential ignition timing.
• Ignition output has adjustable igniter triggering edge for different ignition modules.
• 8 injector drivers incorporating 4 to 1 current ratio for injector response and lower power consumption.
• Fuel pump control with automatic safety cut out if engine stalls.
• 8 volt supply to hall effect or optical sensors.
• To Intelligent Interface OR Laptop.
• 4 Auxiliary outputs. Each o/p has 12 options – e.g., Boost control, thermo fans, NOS, Tacho, Warning lights, A/conditioning control, Water inj, Methanol Inj., Shift light, Idle control, Cam control (Vtec). and many more. Turbo timer.

 

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