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Hey cool... I've started pulling the old EF engine apart too... Don't know what for yet, and Butler will start spewing about his garage space again shortly no doubt... Ah well... Sigh - would be good to get all the bits done you've listed, I only did a quick home job on most of it and this means that one day it will all have to come apart again for the real business to be done to it.
Good on you and your proper planning! Uhm - You going to have the EB rocker gear replaced with EF/EL stuff or what? Slightly different rockers and.... Well... Stuff is different, but compatible if you swap all twelve I think? |
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Cheers fiend,
Yeah thats the plan mate, chuck the EF rocker gear with a new set of lifter onto the EB head with the reground EB cam. That combo should hopefully work okay seeing as the camshaft is interchangeable between the EA-early EL so im guessing there wouldnt be an issue with the rocker gear if the complete assembly is swapped. Fingers crossed Took the head in today to get cleaned of most of the carbon and get a couple of water jackets welded up. Lol being the broke bugger that i am, i have to get each thing done one at a time. Gotta pick up the head tomorrow so should be able to start having a crack at working on it this week |
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BTW - Chrome bling grille looks way better... Maybe in Aussie where there is millions of them they're s**t, but over here... Well... I've only seen three in the entire Wellington, and one of them is mine...
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Yes chrome grills are the shizz
I want to try and get my fairlane one re-chromed if its possible seeing as it plastic. It has a couple of big dings in the top corner, not noticeable from far away but up close looks like someone threw rocks at it . If all else fails i'll get the fairy one chromed, its already been wet sanded back up to 2000grit so should be good enough for chroming i would think You're right though, definately are pretty rare in the land of the long white cloud. Ive only seen a couple around too. Fairlanes and LTD's are extremely rare up here. In saying that, theres an NF Fairlane for sale 20 metres down the road, the joker wants $2900 for it and its got a smahed front bumper and has done almost half a million kms, im so tempted to go and rip his clear side repeaters off Gee i wish i had a spare $500 so i could go buy these.. Attachment: 100762171_full.jpg They are very pimp You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post. |
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They are pimp. I saw a dark blue one of those (DF or DL or something similar, huh?) and just had to take a photo... As you do.
At risk of turning into a "Hey, look at this interesting s**t on Ebay / TradeMe" thread... http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing ... =223024720 hahaha! $9000 for a Futura?! Huh?... Is there something I'm missing? Stainless extractors... Polished rocker cover... BLOODY GREAT STAIN ON THE BONNET..... |
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Slowly getting things started on the head now, got the head cleaned up a bit (carbon) and got the 2 water jackets welded up. So now ive started doing the combustion chambers, basically just giving them a genral smoothening, laying back the area around the valves on the opposite side of the sparkplug, but not too much seeing as this is my first head and i dont wanna stuff around with the cc's too much. Should get the chambers finished off tomorrow, then start working on the valve bowls and so on..
Quick go with the dremel on one chamber just to get an idea of what im getting myself into Will get some pics up of the work on the chambers over the weekend |
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Mate --- Get it shaved / skimmed or whatever you want to call it first and then start by rounding off the sharp edges before doing the outside bits... Or, just don't touch the edge which hits the block mating surface and round off the other bits. You'll just spend heaps of time doing a nice tidy job and then end up re-doing it once the head has been milled. Good research though Auckland brother - That's exactly what I spent an afternoon trying to accomplish on mine a month back. Not sure about actual real world power at the rear wheels, but it gave me something to do and sure makes me feel better about what's going "bang" in the "donkity donk".
^^^ These bits are what I be talking about. I need more practice at writing technical documents. Even I didn't make sense of what I was talking about above! |
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Cheers fiend old pal, i get what you mean mate, and you're spot on
All im doing at the moment is smoothing out the actual chamber part around the valves and that, not gonna be polishing it all up until i get the head shaved, like you said, once they shave the head it'll leave a sharp edge around the chamber which i will need to fix up again. Since im gonna be taking a bit out to lay back the chamber on one side through, i might as well do it now before the head is shaved. Dont wanna slip with the grinder and leave a nice gouge in the freshly shaved surface. Geez i regret not taking that AU head from pick a part now, would've had the larger ex. valves and would be better to work with when porting.. I dont even know if what im gonna do is even gonna make a difference, but from what ive seen on a few sites and a article by Brendon Mock from JMM from some Ford magazine, you can get a bit more flow happening by doing a few simple things in the chamber and the valve bowls This is for an EA head with the swirl ridge but it would apply to the other heads aswell with how they lay back the area around the valves opposite the spark plug Attachment: BestFordsP1.jpg Attachment: BestFordsP2.jpg Attachment: BestFordsP3.jpg
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Hey cool - That's a good scan job. Here it is in a wide format which will be easier for some to view on their screens at home and is also only 500kb large. Obviously reworked without permission from something called BEST FORDS, which I cannot find on the net according to Google...
Good stuff... I should have had a close read of this a month or two back! Look at that "wing" in picture #25! I don't remember seeing anything that bad on the EF / EL to be honest. Maybe it's a trick of the light, or maybe those EA heads really did have huge wings like that?!!!! You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post. |
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Fiend, your a bloody legend mate.
I was sick of going through each page seeing as im using windows picture viewer to open it which only opens one image at a time. No need to do that with your reworked version as its all in one. Top stuff!! I actually picked those scans off here (fordmods) i think?? Cant remember which thread it was now but i saved them a while ago when i first took the head off but never had the time to do any work on the head. Now i have a couple of months before it needs to go on so its all on Yeah the wing thing was only in the EA's i think, EBII onwards dont have it from what i know (well the EBII-ED head im working on right now doesnt and the EF one on my car sure as hell doesnt either). The wing would of given the EA a bit more compression with its s**t bottom end though compared to other e-series heads. Gee, i got bugger all done on the bloody head today, too much running around for people, fixing bloody computers, looking for parts for a nissan terrano heap of s**t. Im like almost done on one chamber so far, 5 and a half left to go Hopefully ill get time to do some work on it tomorrow and get some progress pics up. |
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Bit of progress today, only got 3 chambers done lol. Came up all right i think. Just slightly layed back the area around the intake valve a bit as it kinda sticks out into the chamber a bit. Not taking a huge amount out so it probably wont much increase it flow but i cant be f**k getting the chambers cc'd so it'll do for now lol.. Its taking me a little longer than expected, so its coming together slowly. Have started doing the same on the last 3 chambers now, just gotta finish laying it back evenly then smooth it out. Cant wait to get it all done so i can get on to doing the bowls
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Good stuff man. That's way better than the little bit I took off mine... I was happy the visual improvements in mine, but that's miles better... Next time there's a Tickford head sitting in my lap it'll get a better treatment....
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not wanting to burst your bubble but this porting will do sweet f-all unless its an out and out race motor....
there are I6s running in the 13's with stock heads...these heads are good for close to 170rwkw without porting...the head is not the limitation....the right cam is crucial....improve the comp, intake sys and exhaust sys... spend money on the head in other ways such as making sure its not bent, cracked or soft. also get the seats re-cut and valves faced, and make sure guides arnt worn...have the head shaved to up comp and run the AU gasket....port matching and de-dagg would be as far as u need to go
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I think he is looking at cam options, and is getting the head shaved and doing the valve grind etc etc too. Anyways, if you have a spare (or have one in parts for a length of time) you may as well improve it a little before putting it back in huh?!
Why not? You're not loosing anything other than a few hours of your own time, and learn a few things along the way. Am damn sure he is using the AU gasket and bolts also... And getting it cracked, bent and soft tested would be a normal thing to do. I guess someone might not bother, but you wouldn't want to bother putting a head back into your car that you hadn't tested!!!! Surely not... You'd have to be a fairly keen gambler.... |
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Fiend: Cheers dude, it doesnt look too bad at the moment haha lucky i didnt get it shaved or anything else first, have made a fe marks around the chambers already, but nothing too deep so when it gets shaved it'll all clean up.
Gogetta: I know it isnt gunna make much difference at all. Its basically just a bit of fun, just getting to know the basics of porting and stuff, its always good to learn things yourself These heads flow quite well anyways, the 91aa head has been said to flow well over 300hp stock, and even after all the work that is gunna go into the motor after the head is done it'll still be nowhere near 300hp. The guy who will be doing the cam grind for me has suggested that i do a little bit of work on the head (mild port/polish and head shave) to get the most out of the cam so thats basically what im doing, its all free since im doing it myself so why not hey gogetta wrote: spend money on the head in other ways such as making sure its not bent, cracked or soft. also get the seats re-cut and valves faced, and make sure guides arnt worn...have the head shaved to up comp and run the AU gasket....port matching and de-dagg would be as far as u need to go Its getting all that done ^^^ so no problems there |
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