Oh. Floor, carpets, mats... It's all the same to me. Sorry about that. I'm with you now.

Will remember to differentiate between floor, mats, carpet and the like in future.

So, my original thought that I had missed the bit of the thread with the Fairmont badge install wasn't too far off the path to righteousness and being at one with encompassing powers of divinity.

I should work on some shroom mats. Good thinking SLO247 bro.

Ahh well spotted fella's, for a minute i was thinking what fairmont badge thing is he talking about in the footwell, im now also with you's lol. Yep, those little stitched Fairmont inserts are moulded into the tailor made mats, had them custom made as SLO247 stated earlier, wasnt cheap either but it was well worth it in the end

As for 6x9's up front, geez id be worried out my mirrors falling off then with the extra thump up front lol. You should see the mirrors when i fade the headunit to my el cheapo front splits and crank it up a bit, both mirrors shake quite bad, then i fade it back to the centre and the bass from the 12" woofer in the boot gets added to the mix and the mirrors shake violently, ahh the joys of having broken lower screw mounts on both mirrors hahaha

How easy was it to fit the 6x9's up front Fiend? Did you have any clearance issues with the larger magnets on the 6x9's etc? Obviously there would be a bit off cutting involved and what not as the hole there already is quite small, i was lucky enough to have shallow baskets on the splits i bought so no modding or spacers needed. Could of been a good idea though had i not sold my set of Pioneer TS-A6972E's, they pumped hard and were a bloody good set of speakers . For now though, my $40 front stage works wonders

Heheh. Good stuff on the broken lower mirror mount thing. I had one like that, and YEAHP, can be annoying.

Hmmm... I have a set of KENWOOD something or others 6x9's in front doors. It's a squeeze, but do-able. You need to put washers on the inside of the door to make the speaker stick out into the door lining a touch more than standard, otherwise the window gets a nice clunking noise on winder application and if you're unlucky it'll get pretty well stuck.

Would sound better if you put some body deadener or something against the outer door I figure... I'm having trouble with the JVC 6x9's in the boot distorting at loud volumes now.

I think my ears expect thousands of dollars worth of stereo. My wallet says "make do with a couple of hundred". My hand still reaches out for the loud knob on certain tunes...

Now my wallet says "put up with your blown up rear speakers tosser".

It's here!!



Finally received my cam this week, Franklin Cams have done a mild combo grind for me which should net a few more ponies and give me a nice little torque boost. Will hopefully get it in and running by the weekend..

A few happy snaps from Monday morning..

Looking great mate, when does it go in? Also have to say once again its a tidy as engine bay mate, lots of time out under the bonnet polishing away aye.

Haha cheers buddy, yestoo much time in the engine bay detailing every little thing. I really should leave it and get onto the exterior, the rims could do with a beadblasting and polishing too

The cam hopefully will go in on friday arvo.. i wanna try and get it in before the weekend, so when the ecu gets reset while chucking it in will have a few days to adapt to it and relearn everything, that way it should have everything running at its best

dont ya have another head your f**k around with? why are you not putting it on with the cam?

That was the plan originally, finish porting the head, get it reco'd and all prepped ready to bolt on, get a 1673 or 977b regrind cam from wade, fit uprated springs etc but lack of money sorted that out for me so now im limited to the cam for now and other small mods .. All my original plans have been put off for now till i can absolutely afford it, so i decided to get a mild grind put on my spare cam i had to suit my current setup, just for now to liven things up a bit and keep the driving experience enjoyable ..

Still slowly working on porting the spare head though, but need to start putting some serious money aside for all the head reconditioning. So far im looking at around $300-400 to get the head reco done, an extra $100 or so for the head gasket, another $180 or so for the uprated Manley springs etc amongst other things like head bolts, new lifters etc that will need to be renewed so its gunna be an expensive one for me, it just all keeps adding up. Not to mention the cam to go with it, depending on where i get it reground that'll be an extra $200 if i get it from Franklin cams (local cam place) or around $350 from Wade.

Judging by how things are currently going and how im blowing my already-limited funds, it'll be a while before any of this happens

I see your way of thinking and its not a bad idea, save your money and take your time getting the spare head done s**t hot Bet you will have a warm fuzzy feeling inside knowing you had done most of the work on the spare head.

Spot on mate, would be a good feeling once the headwork is done and i can say that i did it, i just hope that what im doing wont see me go backwards and lose torque

Kind of cant wait to finish the head get it reco'd and chuck it on just to see how much of an improvement it makes - if any lol

Oh well time will tell, off to find some hardened washers to use as shims for this regrind cam i have waiting to go in

dash looks fukkin cool - dont put 6x9's in the front - thats just stupid! get some decent 6.5" splits for the front if you want to change the speakers!
6x9's in the front would make the interior look extremly bogun, and you wouldnt get any real benefit anyway!

Why does 6x9's look "extremly" bogan? You can't even see them behind the bloody mesh in the door... Why is it stupid? It works well, and sounds pretty good. And a decent pair of 6x9's is cheaper than equal sounding 6.5"...

But then again --- I could have been deafened by hanging out around the recording desks at EMI studios for all those years... Or maybe it was the time spent setting up, sound checking and working on mixing desks at live gigs? Whatever it was, I must be wrong. You are right.

Yeah, you're right. It's stupid. No one should ever try putting bigger speakers in the front. You're the man. Thanks for showing us all that we're entirely f**k and you're 100% correct.

Cheers.

Hey again - Sorry about the rant at that guy, above. But what the f**k.

Are you finding some 1.8mm thick washers and doubling them up underneath the original shims? The original shims work okay if you're putting two sets on top of each other, and they do have the little paths for the oil to pass through built into them already. I take it the hole in the centre of the washer will be about the same (slightly smaller, of course) than the hole in the top of the hydraulic lifter? Just make sure the indentations in the original shims go inside the diametre of the hole in the washer, otherwise you'll have an issue with too little oil and maybe the hydraulic action of the lifter not working as advertised?!

There is an argument for not using two original shims on top of each other, and it does make some sense.

So - Are you doing original shim at top with 1.8mm washer underneath, or what's the story?!!!

And never you mind about 6x9's in the front doors. Just let us real bogans be.

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why the f**k would u put 6x9's in the front of a car - there better suited to back fill - plus you have to hack up your door to fit them... punch you can get decent punch out of them - but thats what the sub is for... your ears cant distinguish where lower bass noises come from... but if you want to go for your fuking life dude - if 6x9's were so superior all the high end car stereos would be running them...

and i'd like to see a nice sitting pair in the door of an e-series....

Lol interesting read
Cheers Mitch, yeah dash came out looking quite decent in the end, i have achieved the main purpose of eliminating all the dark brown in the cappa interior so im happy with that. For now my 6" splits will stay up front, 6x9's would be just a tad too big for my liking up front, besides, being a broke a**, i cant afford to go stuffing around with speakers just yet



Good point you made there with the shims Fiend, i had the exact same thought when thinking about using washers as shims, with regards to blocking up the 3 little indents on the underside of the original shim so i did a little bit of asking around and got some good advice..

I spoke to another guy who has a similar grind to what i got from Franklin Cams in his EF XR6. He got the "RH24B" grind from them and i have a mix of that same profile with a larger profile so my guess is they would of ground off about the same amount for both cams. He required an extra 1mm shim plus the original shim in each rocker to make up for the reduced base circle. So tomorrow i'll head out and get a dozen of 1mm thick, 5mm washers (5mm hole with a 10mm O.D) in hardened 316 stainless which is what this guy has used and has suggested. Those washers should allow a bit of oil into those little f**k known as the lifters and should only cost me a couple of bucks and work just fine. Franklin cams told me that they only grind off a small amount so even if it does require shims, which im 100% certain it will, it will only be a small amount that i have to shim.

The guy i spoke to with the similar grind said that there is basically zero valvetrain noise with the extra 1mm shim fitted and hasnt had any issues with them bending or smashing etc so far. He's had them in for a while so thats good enough for me. He also gave a quick run down on the cam, said it was a good all round cam, feels quite similar to the XR6 cam down low but has more above 3000rpm, starts to drop off around 5000rpm. With the slightly bigger grind i have it should have a bit more torque and give me a bit more of a kick.

Even though its only a mild grind, this would be my first cam upgrade ever on my own car, I cant wait to get this little f**k in man