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 Post subject: Re: XFWAGON's "LTD-XTC" Build thread
Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 10:04 am 
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There's a REDLINE SHOCKPROOF oil that is available in NZ mate.... And I have a supply of Lubrizol 7096 remember!!!?!!!

All good on the balancing. Those shafts are pretty strong mate, no matter how thin the welder guy thought it is... Did he say it was completely hollow in the middle, or had something inside it by the way?
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 Post subject: Re: XFWAGON's "LTD-XTC" Build thread
Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 10:18 am 
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There's a REDLINE SHOCKPROOF oil that is available in NZ mate.... And I have a supply of Lubrizol 7096 remember!!!?!!!

All good on the balancing. Those shafts are pretty strong mate, no matter how thin the welder guy thought it is... Did he say it was completely hollow in the middle, or had something inside it by the way?


I may have to buy some lubrizol off you. 2l of this oil and some lubrizol all fit into the space of a T5?

The welder said it was completely hollow, and the balancer has a theory.
1)the auto shafts are completely hollow with harmonic ring on yoke
2)the manual shafts are still hollow but have small metal rings placed all down the inside and no harmonic ring on the yoke.. Sound about right?

So mates rates on this lubrizol Fiend, come on! Not the fordmods discount, that was too expensive lol.

I may just biff this Castrol stuff in as it is, it literally is like liquid gold. Fully synthetic super super slippery slippery s**t.

 

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 Post subject: Re: XFWAGON's "LTD-XTC" Build thread
Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 10:30 am 
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you might find this funny..
i cut a nc fairlane alloy shaft to find it had a cardboard tube lining on the inside. :shock:
i assume it was for noise reduction??
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 Post subject: Re: XFWAGON's "LTD-XTC" Build thread
Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 10:39 am 
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I put the factory recommended oil, DX111 and Lubrizol in my T5.

However, I am finding my changes quite notchy. I am considering trying a good quality synthetic replacement.

What is the product you have found exactly? I will have to do a bit of research to see what is available locally.

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 Post subject: Re: XFWAGON's "LTD-XTC" Build thread
Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 10:42 am 
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you might find this funny..
i cut a nc fairlane alloy shaft to find it had a cardboard tube lining on the inside. :shock:
i assume it was for noise reduction??


Could be...i didn't get my DC one cut, i sent the NU one i bought away as it was lighter.

For some reason the DC/NC one feels a bit heavier and more solid. Looks like its got more proper alloy in it too...... the NU shaft looks and feels a bit different.

 

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 Post subject: Re: XFWAGON's "LTD-XTC" Build thread
Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 10:43 am 
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BenJ wrote:
I put the factory recommended oil, DX111 and Lubrizol in my T5.

However, I am finding my changes quite notchy. I am considering trying a good quality synthetic replacement.

What is the product you have found exactly? I will have to do a bit of research to see what is available locally.

BenJ


I'll let you know when i pick it up this avo, its made by Castrol and is recommended for Ford boxes. Watch this space.....

 

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 Post subject: Re: XFWAGON's "LTD-XTC" Build thread
Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 10:47 am 
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i dont use auto trans fluid in the t5. i use penrite fully synthetic gear oil..

actually yours being a v8 t5 it should be running gear oil not auto trans fluid.
for some reason ford recomend gear oil for the v8 and auto trans fluid for the 6..
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 Post subject: Re: XFWAGON's "LTD-XTC" Build thread
Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 11:32 am 
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i dont use auto trans fluid in the t5. i use penrite fully synthetic gear oil..

actually yours being a v8 t5 it should be running gear oil not auto trans fluid.
for some reason ford recomend gear oil for the v8 and auto trans fluid for the 6..


Good thing i didn't go transmax then.... i just picked up my gear fluid. Specs:

Castrol- Manual- Syntrax 75W-90
Full synthetic

Blurb from back of pack:

"A full synthetic, manual transmission fluid with superior synchronizer performance. Recommended for competition applications and for high performance Transaxle with combined manual transmission and hypoid differentials. A full synthetic API GL5, 75W-90 extreme pressure gear oil with excellent synchronizer performance. it is dyed red."

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 Post subject: Re: XFWAGON's "LTD-XTC" Build thread
Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 7:56 pm 
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LUBRIZOL!!!

And if you look up the gearbox on the BORG WARNER / TREMEC site they say not to use what Ford recommended... Ford recommended the wrong stuff apparently - Ring Tremec and ask them like I did - you'll get the same answer...!

Anyways....... Bloody Fordmods - Everyone on here is so so so tight with their cash, it's just crazy! Sold a shifter, a silicon anti vibe gasket and a Lubrizol for $200 including postage a week ago.

It's lucky I love you all, coz I ain't even paying my bloody child support with that sort of carry on.
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 Post subject: Re: XFWAGON's "LTD-XTC" Build thread
Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 8:36 pm 
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I was wrong when i stated that this is recommended for Ford boxes....it's not. So good.

Hmmm lubrizol means money, money i haven't got...... i'll think about it.

Lol are you even making anything on selling that stuff?? at all??

Oh s**t, i thought i better ask, what side lines go to what side fuel rail? I put the fuel rails back in ages ago and think i put the correct tubes onto the correct rails, but not sure...... one tube is white capped, the other Grey or black.

 

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 Post subject: Re: XFWAGON's "LTD-XTC" Build thread
Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 1:27 am 
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if its gear oil its ok and doesent need lubrizol.
lubrizol is only needed when auto trans fluid is used..
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 Post subject: Re: XFWAGON's "LTD-XTC" Build thread
Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 4:17 pm 
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Nope - Not making much on selling all that stuff, at all!!! Lubrizol is a kind of "anti foaming and bonding agent" that helps the oil maintain its operating properties - given that autos use an oil pump (generally) and the manual boxes just have the lower half of the gears sitting in oil constantly you can see how the gears in a manual attempt to turn the oil into foam... Which does it not a lot of good whatsoever.

Like Troydude points out - Gear oils designed for diff or gearbox application don't have the same characteristics as the auto fluids. Auto fluids being more like power steering stuff or hydraulic fluids than traditional oil (?)... Up to you what you put in the T5 at the end of the day, but REDLINE SHOCKPROOF seems to be up there with Transmax Z and or DX3's with Lubrizol...

Anyways, am sure you'll be fine. If NZEA can run his box with no oil at all for a short period, it just goes to show you that anyone who gives half a s**t about their gears will get years out of these T5's. You just never know who has driven them before you though, huh?!!!! Could be mint inside! Could be utter garbage. Either way, fill and check oil after 5,000km and see what falls out!
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 Post subject: Re: XFWAGON's "LTD-XTC" Build thread
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 9:41 am 
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Lol, yeap, I'm about to drop out my dx3 with nulon additive and see what falls out. Saying that there was no oil was exaggerating...there was a tablespoon in there :oops:

 

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Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 11:46 am 
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Lol a tablespoon, i bet that shifted nicely. Hey can anyone take a pic of how the handbrake setup works? Can't figure out how to put it all back together....quite stumped really.... :oops:

 

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Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 11:56 am 
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Holey s**t I snapped my handbrake cable on Saturday! :lol: What part of the set up are you having trouble with??

 

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