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 Post subject: Re: XFWAGON's "LTD-XTC" Build thread- Running rough Hmmm
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 8:05 pm 
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s**t does it what, the thing sounds like an angry animal just wanting to eat the driver. I love the back firing burble they make when changing down gears coming to a stop, i have driven with my windows down all day, being an LTD it has that much sound padding ya can't hear s**t when the windows are up...apart from second gear which sounds like i have gear drives or something installed in the engine :lol: prob' doesn't help the fact that they are straight cut gears either.


I just can't get over how much it changes the car. For a stock engine with the only mods being an explorer intake with attributed maf and TB, plus injectors, the thing throws you back in the seat easily without even trying.... although, more power is much needed as always!


I know what ya mean man. My EB Ghia has lots of sound deadening in it,it's fairly quiet inside with the windows rolled up, so i rolled the windows down the first time i took it for a drive, and with the larger CAI setup, extractors & full sports exhaust, i get a very nice note from the exhaust, even tho i only have a I6 in it. Not to mention the grin i had from ear to ear from the way the car was shoving me back into the seat when i put the foot down, and the noise! These things sound so much better with a manual behind them!

My only grumble is that i need to pull my box out & change the clutch, throw out fork & spigot bearing soon, i really hate doing clutches, but i shouldn't complain, i've managed to get 3 years out of the clutch setup that come with the engine & box, and i dunno how many kms it had done before i have put another 120k kms on it! Don't worry, i have a spare 6bolt (yes!) flywheel that has been ground & ready to be put in with the new HD clutch setup.

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 Post subject: Re: XFWAGON's "LTD-XTC" Build thread- Running rough Hmmm
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 8:34 pm 
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Six bolt flywheels --- You know, I'm going to drill and tap mine the next time it is out. Not that it really matters... Considering how my clutch is held with three little bolts done up to torque specification purely by guess work... And there's a bit of a special secret about the bolts... Their special ones all right... They originally held the dash in place on a wreck EF Monty...
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After working out where the odd bolts came from and having dumped the clutch, done plenty of donuts, quite a few decent launches and spent hours upon hours working out how to get (and keep) two wheels spinning with my worn LSD I'd safely say that six hole flywheels aren't really a great big requirement. And if you do want one, just drill three holes in the one you have and put a thread into them.


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 Post subject: Re: XFWAGON's "LTD-XTC" Build thread- Running rough Hmmm
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 8:51 pm 
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haha and i went to the trouble of going to bunnings and buying high tensile bolts.... :lol:

 

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 Post subject: Re: XFWAGON's "LTD-XTC" Build thread- Running rough Hmmm
Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 8:42 am 
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And they had the right thread, diametre and length? Holy heck Batman - You struck it lucky there!

Am not proud of it, but it's working beauty thus far into it's 50,000k's of abuse.... You know I am not talking about the FLYWHEEL to CRANK... Just the clutch to the flywheel.... What can I say? When I realised what the bolts were actually from I abused the hell out the whole set up for quite some time just waiting for something to go wrong. But it didn't.

Mr EXEEDY Heavy Duty is sitting in there with three dash board support bolts.
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 Post subject: Re: XFWAGON's "LTD-XTC" Build thread- Running rough Hmmm
Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 8:45 am 
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If the EB GT ECU is anything like that in the EL GT, you will need a matched MAF. I remember reading in Timmeh's thread where he had similar issues.

Throw in a regular ECU out of a EB-ED V8 and fool the auto to suit or get the J3 chip with an manual strategy. Do that and you'll be fine. Also get the larger MAF's transfer table put in with your tune so it wont lean out. What other mods are you running on your motor?

 

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 Post subject: Re: XFWAGON's "LTD-XTC" Build thread- Running rough Hmmm
Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 8:51 am 
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Hey Barnacus - The mods are listed on previous page - but seem to be Explorer Intake and larger intake snorkel and the like along with the injectors etc.

WagonFella - Is there a dyno outfit anywhere near you? Go do a run and get the AFR and curves all printed out and then go get the J3????
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 Post subject: Re: XFWAGON's "LTD-XTC" Build thread- Running rough Hmmm
Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:26 am 
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And they had the right thread, diametre and length? Holy heck Batman - You struck it lucky there!


i was too, no one sells automotive bolts, we struck lucky that the high tensile thread is automotive.. we took the 20-30kg flywheel into bunnings to make sure they fit lol

what bugged me is the fact that i was given them, the whole T5 kit stayed together yet they still grew legs and walked away

 

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 Post subject: Re: XFWAGON's "LTD-XTC" Build thread- Running rough Hmmm
Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 8:30 pm 
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If the EB GT ECU is anything like that in the EL GT, you will need a matched MAF. I remember reading in Timmeh's thread where he had similar issues.

Throw in a regular ECU out of a EB-ED V8 and fool the auto to suit or get the J3 chip with an manual strategy. Do that and you'll be fine. Also get the larger MAF's transfer table put in with your tune so it wont lean out. What other mods are you running on your motor?


As far as i am aware, the EB GT ECU is just a beefed up version the XR ECU. You can buy the J3 chips with the GT tune on it, Factory ran 70mm MAF so i bolted that in too. I was going to buy a manual J3 chip but the only one on offer was the EB GT one, and the actual ECU came with my gearbox so there was no point getting two :mrgreen:

I'm just running the explorer intake, 65mm TB, 70mm MAF. Hopefully some headers soon, i feel i may need a new diff too, as this AU box is geared up for the AU's which came standard with 3.45 (?) diffs in the XR8? Mine is a 3.27, the AU box i have has a 2.97 first ration, the E series boxes have something like 3.33 ratio to match the 3.27 diff.

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Hey Barnacus - The mods are listed on previous page - but seem to be Explorer Intake and larger intake snorkel and the like along with the injectors etc.

WagonFella - Is there a dyno outfit anywhere near you? Go do a run and get the AFR and curves all printed out and then go get the J3????


Can't afford a dyno, and i don't think there are any in Dunedin. Speaking of AFR's, i took it on a run to Oamaru at the weekend, holy s**t, what terrible gas mileage, i got 357km out of a full tank, 90% open road driving, and 10% city driving. f**k! Does sound good coming to a corner though as the engine brakes.

I ordered a new MSD blaster coil, and MSD cap and rotor kit today, as well as a new coolant temp sensor, will see if this helps the problem......

Another question, will these headers fit my car and any idea what brand they could be? They were apparently removed from an NC.

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 Post subject: Re: XFWAGON's "LTD-XTC" Build thread- Running rough Hmmm
Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 8:39 pm 
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nc is the same model as your LTD, only with s**t options lol so they will fit perfectly

 

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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 8:41 pm 
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nc is the same model as your LTD, only with s**t options lol so they will fit perfectly


Gathered that lol, Thanks Huggie..... should have worded that better, i meant they "apparently" came from an NC/DC, do they look like they are?

 

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 Post subject: Re: XFWAGON's "LTD-XTC" Build thread- Running rough Hmmm
Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 8:58 pm 
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They do look like they are from an early lane V8 or falcon v8.

That's pretty poor mileage, sounds like it's running terribly rich!

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 Post subject: Re: XFWAGON's "LTD-XTC" Build thread- Running rough Hmmm
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What I meant is that if the EB GT ECU is anything like that of a EL GT ECU, the MAF is like a matched pair, meaning that unless you have the actual MAF out of a EB GT, the ECU will not measure load properly. A J3 chip will fix this as you can modify the transfer table for your existing MAF so it will talk the talk to your ECU.

 

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Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 11:52 am 
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What I meant is that if the EB GT ECU is anything like that of a EL GT ECU, the MAF is like a matched pair, meaning that unless you have the actual MAF out of a EB GT, the ECU will not measure load properly. A J3 chip will fix this as you can modify the transfer table for your existing MAF so it will talk the talk to your ECU.


I see what you mean now. What would be different between the GT MAF sensor and the normal EB MAF sensor mounted in an AU housing?

Can i get the transfer table programmed by TI on a J3 without having a dyno printout?

 

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Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 11:54 am 
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They do look like they are from an early lane V8 or falcon v8.

That's pretty poor mileage, sounds like it's running terribly rich!

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Thats good, i bought them this morning for the whopping price of $120!

Would Pacey Tri Y's be better than these or wouldn't i really notice the difference? I think when the headers arrive i will have to sand them a bit and give them a coat of HPC

 

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Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 1:55 pm 
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They do look like they are from an early lane V8 or falcon v8.

That's pretty poor mileage, sounds like it's running terribly rich!

Cheers

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Thats good, i bought them this morning for the whopping price of $120!

Would Pacey Tri Y's be better than these or wouldn't i really notice the difference? I think when the headers arrive i will have to sand them a bit and give them a coat of HPC


That's a very good question, not easily answered. What's the pipe size on these? The look like a good buy for $120, most v8 stuff isn't cheap as you would know.

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