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 Post subject: Re: mut's t5 cms 3 el fairmont ghia
Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 9:11 pm 
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even hitting the rev limiter once or twice shouldn't cause engine destruction, that's why the limiter is there, its there to safe guard over revving ...


Gotta agree. Got my limit raised to 6k and have hit it a few times with no load on motor, like missing 3rd and the occasional 1st to 2nd flat change. (Need an excuse to rebuild it but it just won't die). Sees 5500 on a daily basis.


yea, my old au engine had a wade 1645 cam and when it was supercharged I raised the limiter to 5900rpm, it hit the limiter atleast twice a day for 18 months with no failure...
I think more investigating is needed mitch..
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 Post subject: Re: mut's t5 cms 3 el fairmont ghia
Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 9:12 pm 
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rained 6 hours beforehand, also I wasn't going to work I was picking a mate up on the way to work so was different the way I usually go

If it was a different way then that's even more of a reason to be more careful since you weren't familiar with that way

 

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 Post subject: Re: mut's t5 cms 3 el fairmont ghia
Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 9:14 pm 
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TROYMAN wrote:
roughredXR6 wrote:
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even hitting the rev limiter once or twice shouldn't cause engine destruction, that's why the limiter is there, its there to safe guard over revving ...


Gotta agree. Got my limit raised to 6k and have hit it a few times with no load on motor, like missing 3rd and the occasional 1st to 2nd flat change. (Need an excuse to rebuild it but it just won't die). Sees 5500 on a daily basis.


yea, my old au engine had a wade 1645 cam and when it was supercharged I raised the limiter to 5900rpm, it hit the limiter atleast twice a day for 18 months with no failure...
I think more investigating is needed mitch..

me and my work mate thought about the possibility of detonation? and as I took off from the stop before it happened was a big cloud of black smoke that came out of the exhaust

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rained 6 hours beforehand, also I wasn't going to work I was picking a mate up on the way to work so was different the way I usually go

If it was a different way then that's even more of a reason to be more careful since you weren't familiar with that way


says mr trys to get his land cruiser sideways :roll:

 

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 Post subject: Re: mut's t5 cms 3 el fairmont ghia
Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 9:18 pm 
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detonation wont do that...

im sure you may have seen this but 30 mins on the limiter in neutral...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hR6sKfaB ... ture=share
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 Post subject: Re: mut's t5 cms 3 el fairmont ghia
Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 9:32 pm 
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TROYMAN wrote:
detonation wont do that...

im sure you may have seen this but 30 mins on the limiter in neutral...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hR6sKfaB ... ture=share


yep I've seen that video, the only other thing is the top of the chain guide is snapped off and I found a bit munched up on the top of the exhaust side the only thing I could think of is that's got under the chain and caused it to skip but the timing was still about right when we checked it at 180 out (number six was on top at tdc)

 

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 Post subject: Re: mut's t5 cms 3 el fairmont ghia
Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 10:09 pm 
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ask your teacher to explain it to you tomorrow then

 

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 Post subject: Re: mut's t5 cms 3 el fairmont ghia
Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 10:15 pm 
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Clearly my school is normal and clearly work on Saturdays sometimes and Tuesdays and I aint loading all that s**t off and then loading it all up again!

 

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 Post subject: Re: mut's t5 cms 3 el fairmont ghia
Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 10:16 pm 
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Clearly my school is normal and clearly work on Saturdays sometimes and Tuesdays and I aint loading all that s**t off and then loading it all up again!

ok cody keep telling yourself that your school is "normal" and that you "work"

 

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 Post subject: Re: mut's t5 cms 3 el fairmont ghia
Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 10:29 pm 
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Clearly my school is normal and clearly work on Saturdays sometimes and Tuesdays and I aint loading all that s**t off and then loading it all up again!

ok cody keep telling yourself that your school is "normal" and that you "work"

WTF are you talking about now, if i didn't work then how would i bloody get me money to fix constantly failing XG and cruiser

 

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Beaut XG wrote:
mitchell g wrote:
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Clearly my school is normal and clearly work on Saturdays sometimes and Tuesdays and I aint loading all that s**t off and then loading it all up again!

ok cody keep telling yourself that your school is "normal" and that you "work"

WTF are you talking about now, if i didn't work then how would i bloody get me money to fix constantly failing XG and cruiser


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 Post subject: Re: mut's t5 cms 3 el fairmont ghia
Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 10:31 pm 
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roughredXR6 wrote:
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even hitting the rev limiter once or twice shouldn't cause engine destruction, that's why the limiter is there, its there to safe guard over revving ...


Gotta agree. Got my limit raised to 6k and have hit it a few times with no load on motor, like missing 3rd and the occasional 1st to 2nd flat change. (Need an excuse to rebuild it but it just won't die). Sees 5500 on a daily basis.


yea, my old au engine had a wade 1645 cam and when it was supercharged I raised the limiter to 5900rpm, it hit the limiter atleast twice a day for 18 months with no failure...
I think more investigating is needed mitch..

a proper tune. not a ti performance chip be a saviour?

 

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 Post subject: Re: mut's t5 cms 3 el fairmont ghia
Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 10:42 pm 
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in my opinion mitch, its a mechanical failure not a tune related one, nothing in the tune will cause piston to hit the valves..

its can only really be either a cam chain issue, cam timing, the cam it self, bad valve springs or not enough rocker/ lifter clearance..
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 Post subject: Re: mut's t5 cms 3 el fairmont ghia
Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 10:46 pm 
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in my opinion mitch, its a mechanical failure not a tune related one, nothing in the tune will cause piston to hit the valves..

its can only really be either a cam chain issue, cam timing, the cam it self, bad valve springs or not enough rocker/ lifter clearance..


i'll to chat with my uncle tomorrow. has there ever been a report of the vernier gear slipping?

 

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 Post subject: Re: mut's t5 cms 3 el fairmont ghia
Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 10:53 pm 
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mitchell g wrote:
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in my opinion mitch, its a mechanical failure not a tune related one, nothing in the tune will cause piston to hit the valves..

its can only really be either a cam chain issue, cam timing, the cam it self, bad valve springs or not enough rocker/ lifter clearance..


i'll to chat with my uncle tomorrow. has there ever been a report of the vernier gear slipping?


if the bolts are not done up tight? yes,,
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in my opinion mitch, its a mechanical failure not a tune related one, nothing in the tune will cause piston to hit the valves..

its can only really be either a cam chain issue, cam timing, the cam it self, bad valve springs or not enough rocker/ lifter clearance..


i'll to chat with my uncle tomorrow. has there ever been a report of the vernier gear slipping?


if the bolts are not done up tight? yes,,


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