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 Post subject: Re: mut's el fairmont ghia t5 converstion started
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 9:05 pm 
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oh i see well i might end up doing what you've done but untill then i shall use the xr one

 

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 Post subject: Re: mut's el fairmont ghia t5 converstion started
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 9:46 pm 
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Don't you lose the climate control system as well if you use the xr ecu?
Thats why I was wondering if you were going resistor or j3, because with anything else you'd loosing a few major ghia features.

 

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 Post subject: Re: mut's el fairmont ghia t5 converstion started
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 9:47 pm 
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no thats controled with the bcm

 

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 Post subject: Re: mut's el fairmont ghia t5 converstion started
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 9:59 pm 
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The BCM only controls the CC display unit thingo. But its the ECU that does the rest. It has sensors the judge what position the blend door should be, if fresh or recirculatung air is needed, and operates the heater tap.
I think thats right. Can anyone else confirm?

 

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 Post subject: Re: mut's el fairmont ghia t5 converstion started
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 10:15 pm 
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nope. the ecu only controls the a/c compressor..the rest is done by the cc and bcm
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 Post subject: Re: mut's el fairmont ghia t5 converstion started
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 10:38 pm 
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well seems i miss alined clutch plate so got to pull all that out again, don't know how well that will go had the gearbox drop out and land on my knee causing some colourful words and a rather big limp to occur, old mans going to check my alinement tomorrow before i rip the bell housing off

 

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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 10:49 pm 
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a tip for ya, connect the clutch cable ,if you can get the box in enough to get the input shaft in the clutch splines, get someone to push the pedal down while you push the box in. this will release the clutch plate allowing the input shaft to go into the spigot bearing,
or while pushing the box in push on the clutch fork with your hand or foot this will do the same thing..
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 Post subject: Re: mut's el fairmont ghia t5 converstion started
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 10:50 pm 
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we're about 3/4 of an inch out with the gearbox

 

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 Post subject: Re: mut's el fairmont ghia t5 converstion started
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 10:54 pm 
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put the box in gear and try turn the output shaft this will turn the input shaft and line up the splines on the clutch, then try the above...
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 Post subject: Re: mut's el fairmont ghia t5 converstion started
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 10:55 pm 
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tried that will try pulling on the clutch fork, that might get the b**ch in

 

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 Post subject: Re: mut's el fairmont ghia t5 converstion started
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 10:57 pm 
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it has worked for me on a few occasions, saves pulling the bellhousing off and undoing the clutch again..
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 Post subject: Re: mut's el fairmont ghia t5 converstion started
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 10:58 pm 
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yeah certainly would, it's worse that both me and my brother have bad shoulders his is much worse than mine though

 

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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 11:58 pm 
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TROYMAN wrote:
a tip for ya, connect the clutch cable ,if you can get the box in enough to get the input shaft in the clutch splines, get someone to push the pedal down while you push the box in. this will release the clutch plate allowing the input shaft to go into the spigot bearing,
or while pushing the box in push on the clutch fork with your hand or foot this will do the same thing..


+1 there.

On the the two occasions I have taken my box out I have had to do this.
I hook up the clutch before I install the box and jam the clutch pedal to the floor with a bar.

First time I did it it took me a week before I thought of this. The box was about 1-2 cm off the bellhousing.

 

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 Post subject: Re: mut's el fairmont ghia t5 converstion started
Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 12:00 am 
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EFFUTURA4.05SP wrote:
TROYMAN wrote:
a tip for ya, connect the clutch cable ,if you can get the box in enough to get the input shaft in the clutch splines, get someone to push the pedal down while you push the box in. this will release the clutch plate allowing the input shaft to go into the spigot bearing,
or while pushing the box in push on the clutch fork with your hand or foot this will do the same thing..


+1 there.

On the the two occasions I have taken my box out I have had to do this.
I hook up the clutch before I install the box and jam the clutch pedal to the floor with a bar.

First time I did it it took me a week before I thought of this. The box was about 1-2 cm off the bellhousing.

thats how far the gearbox would be off goin in will give it a shot tomorrow

 

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 Post subject: Re: mut's el fairmont ghia t5 converstion started
Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:45 am 
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its in thanks for the idea of the clutch pedal guys! think i'm going to have to do something about the pedal though it's sitting very very high, as in about 3 inch higher than the break :shock:

 

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