My mate from autoline is gonna check tomorrow. He said on the XF's they were to account for the tank

Cool let us know what you find out.

Josh

Ok lads, front springs aren't left or right sided but the rears are!!

...45 mins to swap them over and she's level!! They actualy still had the tags on with "PS" and "DS"

I think I remember seeing one of the tags after the other side was already in and going meh. Woops, if it's worth doing, it's worth doing right huh!

Now that is interesting. I had not heard of the Left and Right spring thing before. Very interesting.

BenJ

Me neither on the spring thing. Has me thinking now about the XR springs I just chucked in the back of Rach's EF.... hmmmmmm

Yeah springs are left and right handed.
The right side is set around 10mm higher to account for the constant weight of the driver.
The kings springs I put in my ED and EB were marked DS and PS front and rear.
The springs I put in the ute which are kings as well are marked left and right.

Yeah I got the info off my mate at autoline today, they sell dobi's.

He said the measurements were the same but that one of the sides was stiffer than the other...but that the fronts had identical species so they didn't matter so much. The car sits level now anyway

...Just went for a warrant and she flew through no worries

HAHAHAAHH!!! Please ignore the above pictures of HIGHEA and LOWEA. There is now a third photo called for --- MIDEA.



EVL Mate - You say it is to account for the driver - How about the fact the diff is not entirely centred? Where is the fuel tank again?! Etc etc etc...

Anyways, good spotting NZEA brother.

Now, if only I could convince you that the bolts holding the clutch on are about as specific as a random number generator.............!

(Or how about my "bolts" that held on the factory driven plate? Or how about yours come to think of it... All those nice bolts that would have simply fallen out if they hadn't been held captive by the engine block.........)

Hahahaha, nice.

Mate said it was more fuel tank orientated than driver....

It's more shear strength that I'm concerned with regarding our pinky toe tight torque converter bolts etc...man those were just rediculous. Hey can you believe my car flew through a warrant??

Only the second time I've had that on any car at all, out of about 9000.5 wof's

Bugger I just had the motivation to put pics of various crap up, but the recently found phone cable is at work!! Tomorrow maybe, I know your all busting your undies in anticipation...

...also of note is that the uneven ride height may or may not have been attributed to the last spring done, rear left, was not seat properly on the top side...may have had some effect... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...

Good detective work mate, handy to know.

Cheers

Josh

I did the same thing with the springs when I put the ticky ones in my EF. I Still haven't swapped them Maybe today.
They aren't marked though.

Mate - Regarding the warrant of fitness....

All I want to know is
WHO THE HELL DOES YOUR WARRANTS? They sound well worth knowing!

Swap them over man!

When I told the less worse half the car flew through the warrrant, she said, "ofcourse it did, you spend that much bloody time on it!" the only thing it could have failed on was one of the tyres, but I guess it was just in...

None the less, full nolathane going in soon, as my front bushes look less than perfect, noted when we did the springs.

Pretty stoked with the lowering. I presently have a boot packed with wet, freshly cut, council willow and she's driving mint, not hitting the bump stops at all.

So...if you open up this link....pin 30 is the trans position, this being what we all trick when we do our manual conversions, to feed back the correct voltage making it think it's in nuetral

But if you put a manual ecu or a J3 chip in then what does everyone make of what else it says under pin 30. Manual Transmission, Nuetral 0V-0.1V, In gear 5Volts.

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Pin No Wire Colour Purpose Voltage
1 Keep Alive Power Battery +12V
2 Not used
3 Vehicle Speed Sensor 10V Square wave when driving
4 Smartlock Immobilisation Signal 0V-12V Bus Signal
5 Ignition Power 12V with Ignition On
6 Not Used
7 Engine Coolant Temp 20*C-3.1V, 40*C-2.2V, 100*C-0.5V
8 Fuel Select (Tickford LPG Models Only) Petrol >9Volts, LPG 0Volts
9 Not Used
10 Airconditioning Clutch On 12V Aircon On, 0V Aircon Off
11 Trans Lock Up solenoid (S7) 12V Lockup
12 Economy Indicator Lamp 0V Economy Lamp On
13 LPG Cut Off Solenoid 0V LPG On, 12V LPG Off
14 Transmission Solenoid (S6) 12V Ignition On
15 Broadband Manifold <3800RPM 0V, >3800RPM 12V
16 Ground 0V
17 Self Test Output (STO) PWM signal 0V-12V
18 Not Used
19 Not Used
20 Case Ground 0V
21 Idle Speed Control +8V to +11V Engine Running
22 Fuel Pump Control +12V Ignition On, 0V Engine Running
23 Knock Sensor +3V Engine Running
24 Not Used
25 Intake Air Temperature Sensor 0*C 3.9V, 20*C 3,1V, 40*C 2.2V
26 Not used
27 Auto Trans Power/Econ Switch Normal 12V, Econ 0V
28 Power Steering Pressure Switch 0V No Load, 12V Steering Load
29 HEGO (Oxygen Sensor) Input 0.1V - 0.8V with Engine Running
30 Transmission Position [p]3.8V-4.2V, [R]3.3V-3.7V, [N]2.8V-3.2V, [D]2.3V-2.7V, [3]1.8V-2.2V, [2]1.3V-1.7V, [1]0.8V-1.2V
Manual Transmission, Neutral 0V-0.1V, In gear 5Volts
31 Canister Purge 8V-10V with Engine Running
32 LPG Gas Shut Off LPG Off 12Volts, LPG On 0Volts
33 Electric Fan 2 Output Relay 2 & 3 Off 12V, Relay 2 & 3 On 0V
34 Data Output Link PWM Data
35 Automatic Transmission Solenoid (S3) 0V-12V
36 SPOUT (Spark Output) Ignition 7V average with Engine Running
37 Ignition Power 12V with Ignition On
38 Auto Trans Variable Pressure Solenoid (S5) 10V - 14V with Engine Running
39 Speed Sensitive Power Steering 0V-12V PWM signal
40 Ground 0Volts
41 Air Conditioning Compressor 12Volts Engaged, 0V Off
42 Transmission Oil Temp 20*C-3.5V, Normal Op Temp 1.0-3.6V
43 A/C Evaporator Air Temp 20*C 1.5V-2.0V
44 Blower Fan Speed High Speed 12V, Off 0V
45 MAP Manifold Absolute Pressure sensor Engine Running 100Hz - 105Hz
46 Signal Ground 0Volts
47 Throttle Position Sensor 0.7V closed, 4.5V WOT (Wide Open)
48 Self Test Input 0Volts for Self Test, 12V Normal operation
49 HEGO Ground 0Volts
50 Not Used
51 Auto Trans Gear Select Solenoid (S1) 0Volts off, 12V On
52 Auto Trans Gear Select Solenoid (S1) 0Volts off, 12V On
53 Electric Fan Output 1 12V Relay 1 Off-0V Relay 1 On
54 A/C Relay 0Volts A/C On, 12Volts A/C Off
55 Automatic Transmission Solenoid (S4) 0Volts Off, 12V On
56 PIP Profile Ignition Pick Up 0V - 12V on Ignition PIP
57 Ignition Power 0Volts Off, 12V Ignition On
58 Fuel Injection Ignition Bank 1,3,5 PWM On Fuel Injection
59 Fuel Injection Ignition Bank 1,3,5 0Volts Off, 12V On
60 Ground 0Volts

I see your point, and would like to find out more... Where does the NEUTRAL SWITCH on the T5 go to?

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