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Age: 63 Posts: 1584 Joined: 20th Mar 2005 Ride: EDL Fairmont Wagon/AU XR8 Ghia Location: Riverstone |
EVL098 wrote: Well back to square one with what you have got. From memory a little rust around the tailights and a bit on top of the rear wheel arches. Needs a screen. The thought of doing a complete transformation like the wagon has entered my mind this afternoon however the one car thing would be difficult at the moment. I am massively between a rock and a hard place at this point.....What is the body like on the EB? Is it worth building a sedan clone of the wagon? I have an idea which I will try before saying anything though, it just came to me... Cheers RD
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all rust can be repaired,and since its on the inside of the sill (common place) no painting needs to be done.talk to a panel beater,tell him you'll strip out the interior to save labour,you'd be suprised at how cheap it might be,depending on the panel shop of course.Or hire/borrow a mig,cut it out and weld patches over it yourself
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Age: 63 Posts: 1584 Joined: 20th Mar 2005 Ride: EDL Fairmont Wagon/AU XR8 Ghia Location: Riverstone |
BenJ wrote: OHHHH s**t!!!! That sucks big time. Wow, I just don't know what to say. I guess it is feasible to attack it with a grinder, and weld a plate back in there. That is how the boys do it when restoring the old cars. A bit of paint, and no one would know. BenJ Tell me about it matey, major deflation when I saw it and even more once I dug around a bit. I suppose I could see what could be done, no loss if it doesn't work out because the car is currently toast anyway.......
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Age: 63 Posts: 1584 Joined: 20th Mar 2005 Ride: EDL Fairmont Wagon/AU XR8 Ghia Location: Riverstone |
madeaspack wrote: all rust can be repaired,and since its on the inside of the sill (common place) no painting needs to be done.talk to a panel beater,tell him you'll strip out the interior to save labour,you'd be suprised at how cheap it might be,depending on the panel shop of course.Or hire/borrow a mig,cut it out and weld patches over it yourself Thanks matey Panelbeater is out of the equation, can't drive the car there as it is unregistered and I have no way of towing it there. Hiring/borrowing a mig is an option, cutting it out is unknown as is obtaining some panel steel to put back in. I admit I would rather fix than throw..... Cheers RD
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Age: 63 Posts: 1584 Joined: 20th Mar 2005 Ride: EDL Fairmont Wagon/AU XR8 Ghia Location: Riverstone |
I'll just add to the above by saying I am really not sure how to do it properly, I am not a "body man". Hopefully someone like SWC can pop his head in here and offer suggestions on the best plan of attack...
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The only part that overly concerns me mate is on the passengers side. How far up past that bracket has it travelled and is that bracket removable and refittable so we can get into it?
The rest of it I reckon will be fiddly for sure but fixable. I reckon get some of the 1mm cutting discs and slice the sections out tomorrow and grind back where it spot welds to the outer sill and get in there and have a good poke and prod around and see how far it has travelled. I dont see how cutting the cancerous section out will affect body strength seeing as though you are not driving it and well basically there is nothing there at the moment. If it is only the inner skin I reckon its fixable. Zap some new material in there , clean it up and body deadener is your friend for rego. Its a Fairmont , its meant to have lots of sound deadening isnt it? 
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Age: 63 Posts: 1584 Joined: 20th Mar 2005 Ride: EDL Fairmont Wagon/AU XR8 Ghia Location: Riverstone |
EVL098 wrote: The only part that overly concerns me mate is on the passengers side. How far up past that bracket has it travelled and is that bracket removable and refittable so we can get into it? The rest of it I reckon will be fiddly for sure but fixable. I reckon get some of the 1mm cutting discs and slice the sections out tomorrow and grind back where it spot welds to the outer sill and get in there and have a good poke and prod around and see how far it has travelled. I dont see how cutting the cancerous section out will affect body strength seeing as though you are not driving it and well basically there is nothing there at the moment. If it is only the inner skin I reckon its fixable. Zap some new material in there , clean it up and body deadener is your friend for rego. Its a Fairmont , its meant to have lots of sound deadening isnt it? I like your confidence matey, it's actually inspiring  I'll get the car a little higher and then check out the pass side in more detail. From my quick look this avo is seems to stop at the member but tomorrow will tell more. From a quick squiz at the outer sill there looks to be nothing visible but hey, you never know. 'Til tomorrow.......
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BenJ wrote: OHHHH s**t!!!! That sucks big time. Wow, I just don't know what to say. I guess it is feasible to attack it with a grinder, and weld a plate back in there. That is how the boys do it when restoring the old cars. A bit of paint, and no one would know. BenJ Does it looks worse in the photos or other way around. Do ya still have that wagon that you stripped for parts? any chance of cutting and shutting metal off that? Bad Luck for the moment but maybe you can pull something outta of ya hat or maybe someone might look and go "pfft that is nothing"
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Age: 63 Posts: 1584 Joined: 20th Mar 2005 Ride: EDL Fairmont Wagon/AU XR8 Ghia Location: Riverstone |
Well after some news from various people and xpvanman giving me even more confidence, repairs will be made. Yes, I do still have the EL wagon here and could get panel steel out of that, either from the same place as the rust on the EF or from the roof or rear quarter.
Tomorrow (rain pending) I will do as EVL098 suggested and get under there for more exploration, grinding, cutting and rust paint.....
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f**k me RD thats bad news mate! hope all goes well in the repair work. although it looks bad it can be fixed, this is fordmods where fairy tale dreams come true.
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I've been there before...
Looks fixable, and being in an unseen spot, who cares if it ain't perfect? Goodluck! |
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s**t, thats some bad rust you got under there RD. Thats a major setback alright. Hope it isnt as bad as it look when you start grinding and cutting out the rust.
I have the same concern as EVL098 though, about the LH side where the rust is, hopefully it hasnt rusted past that bracket/join onto the otherside. Either way though, it is repairable, just need a little bit of time to get all the rust out and get some new metal welded in. Its jobs like these where a hoist would come in bloody handy 
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I'd love to hear how much it costs to get that rust repaired.
I've seen similar before.
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Luckily RD has a complete good spare EL already in his backyard.
With some grinder action it should be possible to replace the rusty areas for minimal outlay. Really the biggest expense should be for some cutting disks and welding rods. BenJ
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Age: 63 Posts: 1584 Joined: 20th Mar 2005 Ride: EDL Fairmont Wagon/AU XR8 Ghia Location: Riverstone |
Since the rain has stopped I have been under the car fighting with the driveshaft again. I need to get the car mobile so I can put it up on ramps to attack the rust. I have done everything imagineable to get this EF shaft in with zero luck.
I found an old EB one up the back which has a shot rear uni joint. Out with the rotary wire brush to clean the outside of the yoke and hand wire brush to clean the inside. Chuck it under the car, lift it into position and bang! straight in now worries. I was going to attempt to replace the yoke on the EF one with this EB one but my practice uni removal didn't go well. So I am just going to bite the bullet and grab another good driveshaft for when I go for a blue slip - I am so over trying to get this fracken EF one in. Once I have the car up on ramps I can dig more into the rust. Pics forthcoming.... Cheers RD
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