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 Post subject: Re: Rach's EF Fairmont Build, courtesy of RD. Major rust found!!
Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 8:14 pm 
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OMG its starting to give you more and more little surprises as you get deeper into it.

You will fix it though RD, good luck with it and hopefully you will not get any more surprises.

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 Post subject: Re: Rach's EF Fairmont Build, courtesy of RD. Major rust found!!
Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 8:25 pm 
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Looking at the pictures it doesn't seem that bad well from the view of an another uneducated person in these things but if you could clean it a bit more and rust kill it plate it coat of paint or something and you should be home and hosed.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Rach's EF Fairmont Build, courtesy of RD. Major rust found!!
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 9:13 am 
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That't easy fixed Bruce, in fact, if I lived down Sydney way, I'd do it myself with my mig. Neutralise the rust within the sill with fish oil, rust convertor, sump oil or whatever you can find and then weld some plate over the holes. I have to wonder though, how the heck did the moisture find its way in the sills in the first place? Is this EF specific?

 

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 Post subject: Re: Rach's EF Fairmont Build, courtesy of RD. Major rust found!!
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 9:52 am 
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That't easy fixed Bruce, in fact, if I lived down Sydney way, I'd do it myself with my mig. Neutralise the rust within the sill with fish oil, rust convertor, sump oil or whatever you can find and then weld some plate over the holes.

Now that is excellent news for a rainy Friday! I'll get some plate and shape it to fit and prep the area so some nice person can weld it on for me :)

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I have to wonder though, how the heck did the moisture find its way in the sills in the first place? Is this EF specific?

Got me beat on that one, totally weird how it rusted out the inside and not the outside!

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 Post subject: Re: Rach's EF Fairmont Build, courtesy of RD. Major rust found!!
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 9:58 am 
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banarcus wrote:
That't easy fixed Bruce, in fact, if I lived down Sydney way, I'd do it myself with my mig. Neutralise the rust within the sill with fish oil, rust convertor, sump oil or whatever you can find and then weld some plate over the holes.

Now that is excellent news for a rainy Friday! I'll get some plate and shape it to fit and prep the area so some nice person can weld it on for me :)

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I have to wonder though, how the heck did the moisture find its way in the sills in the first place? Is this EF specific?

Got me beat on that one, totally weird how it rusted out the inside and not the outside!

Cheers
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I've got an AU 1 with 27,000km's that has rust in the EXACT same place.
only its much worse.
all 4 corners.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Rach's EF Fairmont Build, courtesy of RD. Major rust found!!
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 10:00 am 
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That't easy fixed Bruce, in fact, if I lived down Sydney way, I'd do it myself with my mig. Neutralise the rust within the sill with fish oil, rust convertor, sump oil or whatever you can find and then weld some plate over the holes. I have to wonder though, how the heck did the moisture find its way in the sills in the first place? Is this EF specific?

pull the guard linners out the front guards and check the end of the sills,they collect all the rubbish and rust out--seen lots in the wreckers.the rust sections can be repaired ok,ive done worse over the years,get hold of a mig.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Rach's EF Fairmont Build, courtesy of RD. Major rust found!!
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 10:03 am 
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pull the guard linners out the front guards and check the end of the sills,they collect all the rubbish and rust out--seen lots in the wreckers.the rust sections can be repaired ok,ive done worse over the years,get hold of a mig.

I just happen to have the front guards off at the moment so will do that too. That way I can get alot more rust kill stuff in there :)

 

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 Post subject: Re: Rach's EF Fairmont Build, courtesy of RD. Major rust found!!
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 11:32 am 
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Grrrrrrr, rain has put paid to any further work today on the EF. Add to that the EB suddenly deciding it doesn't want to start and my car saga just gets worse....

RD

 

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 Post subject: Re: Rach's EF Fairmont Build, courtesy of RD. Major rust found!!
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 11:54 am 
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Grrrrrrr, rain has put paid to any further work today on the EF. Add to that the EB suddenly deciding it doesn't want to start and my car saga just gets worse....

RD


joys of owning a motor car. and also rain sucks a** when it isn't needed

 

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 Post subject: Re: Rach's EF Fairmont Build, courtesy of RD. Major rust found!!
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 12:02 pm 
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racedirector wrote:
Grrrrrrr, rain has put paid to any further work today on the EF. Add to that the EB suddenly deciding it doesn't want to start and my car saga just gets worse....

RD


joys of owning a motor car. and also rain sucks a** when it isn't needed

Tell me about it! :) I am thinking starter motor for the EB which is a bugger because it is going to a wrecker when the EF is mobile! As for rain, if I had a garage to work in I wouldn't give a rats but I am in the back yard under a gazebo - problem is water flows wherever the hell it wants to!

 

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 Post subject: Re: Rach's EF Fairmont Build, courtesy of RD. Major rust found!!
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 12:33 pm 
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racedirector wrote:
Now that is excellent news for a rainy Friday! I'll get some plate and shape it to fit and prep the area so some nice person can weld it on for me :)



Am I feeling a finger being pointed in my direction................ :D

 

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 Post subject: Re: Rach's EF Fairmont Build, courtesy of RD. Major rust found!!
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 1:17 pm 
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hans hartman wrote:
pull the guard linners out the front guards and check the end of the sills,they collect all the rubbish and rust out--seen lots in the wreckers.the rust sections can be repaired ok,ive done worse over the years,get hold of a mig.

I just happen to have the front guards off at the moment so will do that too. That way I can get alot more rust kill stuff in there :)

since its a 3 plate sill,weld the patches,pull the rubber plugs out above the patches and spray fish oil into it,1-2 cans each side-or spray with a degreaser gun,catch the excess under drain holes.remove the door plastic scuff covers of the sills and spray\pour the fish oil down the slotted holes and catch the excess,use it on the doors next time your in there.try to spray some down the dog legs while your at it.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Rach's EF Fairmont Build, courtesy of RD. Major rust found!!
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 4:55 pm 
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racedirector wrote:
Now that is excellent news for a rainy Friday! I'll get some plate and shape it to fit and prep the area so some nice person can weld it on for me :)



Am I feeling a finger being pointed in my direction................ :D

Hahahahaha! Pointed at anyone who can weld and can assist me :)

Just need to source some 2mm-ish panel steel for the plates.....

 

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 Post subject: Re: Rach's EF Fairmont Build, courtesy of RD. Major rust found!!
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 4:57 pm 
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hans hartman wrote:
pull the guard linners out the front guards and check the end of the sills,they collect all the rubbish and rust out--seen lots in the wreckers.the rust sections can be repaired ok,ive done worse over the years,get hold of a mig.

I just happen to have the front guards off at the moment so will do that too. That way I can get alot more rust kill stuff in there :)

since its a 3 plate sill,weld the patches,pull the rubber plugs out above the patches and spray fish oil into it,1-2 cans each side-or spray with a degreaser gun,catch the excess under drain holes.remove the door plastic scuff covers of the sills and spray\pour the fish oil down the slotted holes and catch the excess,use it on the doors next time your in there.try to spray some down the dog legs while your at it.

Thanks Hans

Will grab some fish oil (seen it at Supercheap) and do as suggested.....

 

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 Post subject: Re: Rach's EF Fairmont Build, courtesy of RD. Major rust found!!
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 5:03 pm 
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rRcedirector or RD if i may,

Ill be watching this thread as i have the same rust on both sides. It's fairly bad as it's visable on the outside of the sill.

This has brought a hault to major mods(engine conversion) untill i fix it or buy a replacment body shell.

Good luck with the rust, sorry im not much help.

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