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 Post subject: Re: Rach's EF Fairmont, courtesy of RD. Goin' back together now
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 11:53 am 
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One other little hiccup I noticed with the EF is that it doesn't change into 4th. Cruising back from the check yesterday I noticed the revs were around the 2200 mark in drive. The changes are so damn smooth that it is hard to figure out what it has got to, wish there was some way of displaying what gear the box is actually in but I know that is impossible.
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I best guestimate would be to take the car for a drive, pullover in a place were nothing is around and then take off normally but in first then onto 2nd and then 3rd then drive and count the times it changes...

but on the highway the old mans EA and my AU sit on or around the 2grand mark so maybe it was just a smooth transition.

Yea, will have to do something like that just to double check. Interesting about the EA & AU.... I'll get Rach to tell me what revs the ED is doing in 4th @ 60K. I think the EF sedan has the same diff as the wagon - 3.23 - so it should be the same revs, give or take a few with tyre difference: 205/65-15's EF vs 225/50-16's ED.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Rach's EF Fairmont, courtesy of RD. All done - YAY!
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 3:26 pm 
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It has a BLUE SLIP!!! YAY!!!

Got 2 replacement tyres for the back from a wrecker - 90% tread for $35.00 each, no it wasn't PnP. I had to go this way 'cause I found that the left front on my wagon needs replacing so using my wheels wasn't an option. I then moved the RH rear to the LH front.

What a PITA the handbrake adjustment is! Finally got that done. Took it down today and all he did was pull the handbrake lever - no actual test. Still, it would have worked fine anyway.

So now I have a couple of extra things to do. There is a water leak that has appeared after driving it to and from the place. One of the joints under the manifold (!!!!!!) is leaking so that needs to be addressed. And of course, the gear shift. Double checked today and nope, not changing into 4th. I'll whack it up and ramps and check out both things - the water leak and gear shift adjustment.

This weekend it gets it first wash, bought some Mothers car wash for the job. I also bought some Mothers polishing wax stuff to revive the paint. Am going to try by hand first but might invest in an orbital polisher for the job. Can only see what happens I suppose.

Next week it gets rego and new plates. The EB can finally be retired before it falls in a heap!

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 Post subject: Re: Rach's EF Fairmont, courtesy of RD. All done - YAY!
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 3:59 pm 
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Excellent news my friend.

Psst, now you get your wagon back LOL

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 Post subject: Re: Rach's EF Fairmont, courtesy of RD. All done - YAY!
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 4:14 pm 
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Thanks guys, I am so glad that part of the road has been traveled. Once I get these niggly things done I will be 100% happy.

Ben - so looking forward to getting my wagon back, have a bit to do to it. Rach and I were discussing this very thing last night. Bit of bling in the inside and cleanup of the outside. My wagon will have to be finished before I do the dressup stuff on this car - it my turn!!! :)

 

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 Post subject: Re: Rach's EF Fairmont, courtesy of RD. All done - YAY!
Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 7:13 pm 
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Well, it's registered..... cost more than I expected, just under $900.00 all up!!!!!

Couple of niggly's - it does change into 4th after I readjusted the shift linkage. It's a bit slushy though so I think I will need to do do a fluid and filter change. Hopefully that will revive it. Other thing is I installed Rachs stereo today and the aerial still does not go up and down as it should. Not sure where to start looking for that one just at the moment. Not really in the frame of mind either due to family health issues....

Then there is the basics - need a new battery as the one in it is God knows how old and it having trouble holding a charge. Also needs a wheel alignment after the tie rod end change.

I'll have my wagon back tomorrow or Thursday depending how I go with the stuff in the first paragraph.....

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 Post subject: Re: Rach's EF Fairmont, courtesy of RD. All done - YAY!
Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 8:32 pm 
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Great news RD.

Hope all is well with the family.

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 Post subject: Re: Rach's EF Fairmont, courtesy of RD. All done - YAY!
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:07 pm 
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Quick question for those who know.....

Is the EF transmission wiring any different to an ED transmission wiring? This all goes with my weird shifting in this trans. When I installed it, I didn't change the wiring over so the late ED wiring is attached to the box (which of course is ED).

I have it up on ramps right now about to do the filter/fluid change so if the wiring *is* different I could change it at the same time....

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 Post subject: Re: Rach's EF Fairmont, courtesy of RD. All done - YAY!
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:28 pm 
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It should be the same my friend.

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 Post subject: Re: Rach's EF Fairmont, courtesy of RD. All done - YAY!
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:51 pm 
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Cool, one less thing in the mix.

Just dumped the trans sump and the fluid is black and smelly. Filter is pretty sad too. Hopefully new fluid and filter will do the job...

 

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 Post subject: Re: Rach's EF Fairmont, courtesy of RD. All done - YAY!
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 2:23 pm 
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All done now. Shifts are a bit smoother and I *think* it is changing into 4th. RPM drops to around 1500 at between 50 and 60kmh. Going to go for a longer drive to settle it in properly and see what happens.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Rach's EF Fairmont, courtesy of RD. All done - YAY!
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Well, I just drove the car up to Rach's work. I am still not 100% happy and am struggling to figure out why. This trans came out of my ED and was working 100% fine in there. It sat connected to the engine for about 2 months and was then put into the EF. There has to be something I am just not getting. I brought my wagon home to compare and the gear changes are smooth and definite. Rach will no doubt tell me what she thinks when she gets home.

I am hoping that I won't have to put yet another trans in and don't have a spare one anyway....

Stumped.....

 

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 Post subject: Re: Rach's EF Fairmont, courtesy of RD. All done - YAY!
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 9:41 pm 
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Well Rach got home and loves her car. Promptly said the steering feels alot better than mine and so it should with new ball joints, tie rod ends and wheel bearings. No mention of the trans so maybe it's settled itself down but I won't know that until I take it for another drive on the weekend.

As I now have my wagon back, for the time being anyway, it's time to do some work on that. Got some bling to add anyway plus a few maintenance items.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Rach's EF Fairmont, courtesy of RD. All done - YAY!
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:46 pm 
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racedirector wrote:
Is the EF transmission wiring any different to an ED transmission wiring? This all goes with my weird shifting in this trans. When I installed it, I didn't change the wiring over so the late ED wiring is attached to the box (which of course is ED).
The round plug to the transmission is the same (solenoids, trans temp), the rectangular one near injector 6 can vary - same number of pins, but they can be shuffled around between EB-EF/XH models.
From memory:
Speed sensor, rev lights, starter inhibitor, PRND321 resistance. If these all work fine then obviously they all match up.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Rach's EF Fairmont, courtesy of RD. All done - YAY!
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:54 pm 
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snap0964 wrote:
racedirector wrote:
Is the EF transmission wiring any different to an ED transmission wiring? This all goes with my weird shifting in this trans. When I installed it, I didn't change the wiring over so the late ED wiring is attached to the box (which of course is ED).
The round plug to the transmission is the same (solenoids, trans temp), the rectangular one near injector 6 can vary - same number of pins, but they can be shuffled around between EB-EF/XH models.
From memory:
Speed sensor, rev lights, starter inhibitor, PRND321 resistance. If these all work fine then obviously they all match up.

Thanks Ray

By PRND321 resistance, do you mean the trigger points to make the trans change gear? The other 3 item in that list work fine but the shifts were weird. One thing I did notice was it was better in Power mode than Econ mode......

 

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 Post subject: Re: Rach's EF Fairmont, courtesy of RD. All done - YAY!
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 11:21 pm 
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Bruce, it's the resistance pot in the Neutral safety switch - PRND321 selector position.
The EF's seem to be set up to not go into 4th til around 70kmh, whereas the EL's for instance will happily go to 4th around 60 kmh.
Well you can test this by manually selecting back to 3 2 1 - trans should downshift. You can also hold these gears manually, then select higher gear, and it should upshift.

Is the converter locking as it should ??

 

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