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 Post subject: Re: RD's EDL Hybrid Wagon
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 2:31 pm 
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Hmmmm, not alot happening at the moment. I left the ignition on for over an hour and a half yet the smartlock light persisted in it's flashing. Wanting to know if my rewiring job had actually worked (as in turn the starter over) I changed the ECU back to the original one and also changed the BEM back to the one that came with the car (a blue one). Now smartlock goes out as "normal" but still no action on the starter, turning the key just makes the accessory relay click. I am hoping that the battery is low, so that is now on charge. Don't have a fully charged battery available so will just have to wait.

The rest of the engine is pretty much together now, just two hose clips to put on the upper radiator hose plus all the airbox stuff. I have a ton of other things to do while I wait for the battery to charge so will live on with the hope that it is the problem and not something I have done/forgotten to do....

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 Post subject: Re: RD's EDL Hybrid Wagon
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 3:06 pm 
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RD, I had the smartlock flashing problem a week ago after having my dash out turns out it was a wire plug on the steering colunm had a rew pins bent over.

have a look at my thread it may help the link is at the bottom of my sig

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 Post subject: Re: RD's EDL Hybrid Wagon
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 3:43 pm 
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RD, I had the smartlock flashing problem a week ago after having my dash out turns out it was a wire plug on the steering colunm had a rew pins bent over.

have a look at my thread it may help the link is at the bottom of my sig

Cheers

Josh

Hi Josh

I thought of that before I changed over the BEM. With the original blue one in smartlock stopped flashing after turning the key on. There seems to be nothing getting to the starter or at least the battery is too flat to do anything. When it was in the gauge showed 10 which I think is too low. My multimeter is stuffed so I just stuck it on charge instead. Having no car is a total bastard as I can't shoot off anywhere to get stuff, pisses me off no end!

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 Post subject: Re: RD's EDL Hybrid Wagon
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 3:49 pm 
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RD, I had the smartlock flashing problem a week ago after having my dash out turns out it was a wire plug on the steering colunm had a rew pins bent over.

have a look at my thread it may help the link is at the bottom of my sig

Cheers

Josh

Hi Josh

I thought of that before I changed over the BEM. With the original blue one in smartlock stopped flashing after turning the key on. There seems to be nothing getting to the starter or at least the battery is too flat to do anything. When it was in the gauge showed 10 which I think is too low. My multimeter is stuffed so I just stuck it on charge instead. Having no car is a total bastard as I can't shoot off anywhere to get stuff, pisses me off no end!

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Yes I changed the Bem over aswell and the flashing stopped but the car still did not start. Are you getting a red ( ! ) on the cluster when you try and start it. Have a quick look at the last few pages of my thread mate I think you will be surprised. Your battery is not flat with that reading you suld be able to crank the motor with that

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 Post subject: Re: RD's EDL Hybrid Wagon
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 4:35 pm 
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Yes I changed the Bem over aswell and the flashing stopped but the car still did not start. Are you getting a red ( ! ) on the cluster when you try and start it. Have a quick look at the last few pages of my thread mate I think you will be surprised. Your battery is not flat with that reading you suld be able to crank the motor with that

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Ah OK, off to check some plugs. I *am* getting the red (!) on the dashboard every time I turn the key to start (NL Cluster). I thought that was the handbrake light! I'll get the battery off the charger, check the plugs and try again.....

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 Post subject: Re: RD's EDL Hybrid Wagon
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 4:39 pm 
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Yes I changed the Bem over aswell and the flashing stopped but the car still did not start. Are you getting a red ( ! ) on the cluster when you try and start it. Have a quick look at the last few pages of my thread mate I think you will be surprised. Your battery is not flat with that reading you suld be able to crank the motor with that

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Ah OK, off to check some plugs. I *am* getting the red (!) on the dashboard every time I turn the key to start (NL Cluster). I thought that was the handbrake light! I'll get the battery off the charger, check the plugs and try again.....

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RD


No worries mate let me know how you go.

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Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 6:06 pm 
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The red (!) is always there while cranking. That is normal and does not indicate a battery prob.

I was at RDs this afternoon, and after looking at the car, realised there was not interior light hooked up. And we all know what happens to smartlock if you have a bulb out. RD needs to mod the wiring as he is using an NF Interior lamp, and ED roof light wiring and EL body wiring.

Hopefully when the interior light is working it will start.

Let us know how you go RD.

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 Post subject: Re: RD's EDL Hybrid Wagon
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 6:12 pm 
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Nope, no bent pins under the dash.

BenJ stopped by to drop off a couple of things and suggested the dome light which wasn't connected, as in the damn CRT LP issue. As I still have the ED roof wiring, I connected what I could find to the EL's wiring and the dome light fired into life. Turned the key.... nuthin, again. There is a blue (purple?)/yellow wire in the wiring that I cannot find on the diagrams I have. So at this point I am stumped again and might connect the door wiring while I am waiting although this shouldn't have anything to do with the starting circuit unless someone knows something I don't.

Oh and Ben - the ign courtesy light went out when I closed all the doors :)

That is for now

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 Post subject: Re: RD's EDL Hybrid Wagon
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 6:14 pm 
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The red (!) is always there while cranking. That is normal and does not indicate a battery prob.

I was at RDs this afternoon, and after looking at the car, realised there was not interior light hooked up. And we all know what happens to smartlock if you have a bulb out. RD needs to mod the wiring as he is using an NF Interior lamp, and ED roof light wiring and EL body wiring.

Hopefully when the interior light is working it will start.

Let us know how you go RD.

Cheers
BenJ

Posted while I was typing :)

See my post above this one, interior light now on and still nothing....

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 Post subject: Re: RD's EDL Hybrid Wagon
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 6:22 pm 
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The red (!) is always there while cranking. That is normal and does not indicate a battery prob.

I was at RDs this afternoon, and after looking at the car, realised there was not interior light hooked up. And we all know what happens to smartlock if you have a bulb out. RD needs to mod the wiring as he is using an NF Interior lamp, and ED roof light wiring and EL body wiring.

Hopefully when the interior light is working it will start.

Let us know how you go RD.



Cheers
BenJ


Yeah I just cranked my lane over to check that. Sorry to lead you a stray RD but having said that there is a mention of the CRT LP fuse in my thread.

Hope you get it going

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Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 6:35 pm 
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Okies, much, much better news.....

Found the reason after sitting there staring at the car and thinking "what would stop it starting?" It looks like I need to adjust the gear shift because the bloody trans WASN'T IN PARK!!!!!!!!!

Turned the key...... but I hadn't connected the power steering cooler yet so it sprayed bloody PS fluid all over the friggen place because it FIRED!

Am now feeling alot better about myself and my capabilities, was on a downhill road for a little bit there. Now I know it will actually go, I'll put my green BEM and Ghia ECU back in.

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Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 6:45 pm 
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Thats good news mate, Well done
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Okies, much, much better news.....

the bloody trans WASN'T IN PARK!!!!!!!!!

Turned the key...... it FIRED!

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RD


LOL, if it wasn't one little thing, it had to be another.

Might be interesting to see if you unplug the dome lamp if it would have started, if in Park correctly.

But Execellent NEWS Woot.

Good feeling hey buddy, when it actually goes after having it in so many pieces.

And what a relief too, I know that feeling oh tooooo well.

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 Post subject: Re: RD's EDL Hybrid Wagon
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 8:38 pm 
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Okies, much, much better news.....

the bloody trans WASN'T IN PARK!!!!!!!!!

Turned the key...... it FIRED!

Cheers
RD


LOL, if it wasn't one little thing, it had to be another.

Might be interesting to see if you unplug the dome lamp if it would have started, if in Park correctly.

But Execellent NEWS Woot.

Good feeling hey buddy, when it actually goes after having it in so many pieces.

And what a relief too, I know that feeling oh tooooo well.

Cheers
BenJ

Typical huh? Of all the things to not consider but it seems human nature is to look for th worst first :) Once I get things to the point of repeating the starting effort I'll test out the bulb removal from the dome light just to satisfy my own mind.

Good feeling is an understatement, this poor car has been gutted completely and everything replaced, I had a feeling something major might go wrong. In the end a simple thing like not being in Park stopped my joy at turning the key and it firing up fist time. Nonetheless, I am stoked that it goes after all this work, now all the little things to clean up so I can take her for a drive. That day I am very much looking forward to.....

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 Post subject: Re: RD's EDL Hybrid Wagon
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 11:25 pm 
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Ummmm, I'm not sure about this green BEM - I left the ignition on for over an hour and a half yet the smartlock light was *still* flashing. I'll look into it more tomorrow as I am knee deep in designing my power steering cooler line mounts.

More to report tomorrow.

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