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 Post subject: Re: The Ute. Time for the 5.0.
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:00 pm 
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Primo... That fella with the old Fairy donk is a good man alright...

That LSD works well then?
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 Post subject: Re: The Ute. Time for the 5.0.
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:02 pm 
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EVL098 wrote:
Ok I need some help sorting a issue out here. The issue is getting a speed signal to the auto box.
I would like to keep the ZL star wars dash in the ute but need to get speed signal to the auto computer controler for the gear changes. Is there any way of doing this just by using the gearbox speed sensor or does it have to come from the cluster?
Having a box built to convert the E series speedo out put to the XF dash is the easy bit.
I just need to get the signal to the box. Or will I have to track down a C4 auto and run that?


in e series the trans gets its signal from the speed sender. so you should be able to just tap into that wire..?
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 Post subject: Re: The Ute. Time for the 5.0.
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:18 pm 
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Not quite - the speed sensor needs to be powered up to give an output to the TCM.
fordmods-technical-documents-diy-f38/speed-signal-ef-i6-btr93le-into-ea-race-shell-t78420.html?hilit=speed

 

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 Post subject: Re: The Ute. Time for the 5.0.
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:18 pm 
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Primo... That fella with the old Fairy donk is a good man alright...

That LSD works well then?


Refer to the pics 8 posts above to see if the LSD passed my tests............. :mrgreen:

 

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 Post subject: Re: The Ute. Time for the 5.0.
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:25 pm 
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Thanks for that link snap. So by the looks of it Ill have to pull a spare cluster I have here apart and pull the speedo electronics out of it and through it up behind the dash somewhere.
Shouldnt be too hard.

 

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 Post subject: Re: The Ute. Time for the 5.0.
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:41 pm 
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NP. Yeah, the 5v power signal mustn't be linear.
Off topic, if you intend running the 5.0 ECU, you'll need a proper operating TCM with correct inputs, as the TCM feeds data to the ECU. There is a thread in the v8 forum. So if you get the speed signal sorted, that should be fine.
The EB/ED/NA/NC clusters had different tacho's for 6's and 8's not sure if the ZL setup is similar.

 

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 Post subject: Re: The Ute. Time for the 5.0.
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 9:31 pm 
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Ok have now figured out how Im going to do all this and I reckon it wil work.
ECU , TCU and wiring harness will all be hooked up as per the NC running in stealth to control the motor and box. I will seperate those looms from the engine bay loom and dash loom and install them seperately and wire them up for go as per the conversion in my Mav.
I will pull the speed sensor electronics out of a spare cluster here and put them in a plastic box hidden somewhere so the ECU and TCU gets it speed signals it needs.
The ZL dash will have the tacho recalibrated to a V8 ingnition signal. Thats easily done. The speed signal will be split off the e series sender. I will count the pulses per rotation between the 2 of them and have a signal modifying box made to go between the e series output and the ZL dash to bring the ZL speedo back into line. This way the ECU and TCU will think its still in the NC running normally and the ZL speedo will think it is getting a signal from the XF sender so all will be fine.

 

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 Post subject: Re: The Ute. Time for the 5.0.
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 9:53 pm 
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The ECU doesn't necessarily need a speed sensor input.
Not having it means the speed limiter is removed. 8-)

 

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 Post subject: Re: The Ute. Time for the 5.0.
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:26 pm 
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Slowly getting bits and bobs together.
Power window regs turned up today and I organised an AU tank for my little change I will be making.
Now I just need to get the jobs on the missus's 4b sorted and the Maverick passed rego and I can make a start!

 

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 Post subject: Re: The Ute. Time for the 5.0.
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 8:00 pm 
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Refer to the pics 8 posts above to see if the LSD passed my tests............. :mrgreen:
Saw those... What I mean is... Interested in the photos of two big black smoking holes in the driveway.,......
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 Post subject: Re: The Ute. Time for the 5.0.
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 8:55 pm 
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I have been staying away from fordmods for a few weeks because i have not been able to log on.

That guy you sold the XF to is a complete wanker lol, I laughed so hard i got a stitch lol.

Good score on the lane, and thumbs up on the drive line test.

good luck getting it all in mate.

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 Post subject: Re: The Ute. Time for the 5.0.
Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 8:06 pm 
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Now have a set of power windows for the old bone.
Just slowly squirreling bits getting ready to lob into it once I get the other chores I have to get done knocked off!

 

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More people paid for a ride in a VT commodore then an AU Falcon so the VT is superior.
Based on that fact my Mum is the best around!

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 Post subject: Re: The Ute. Time for the 5.0.
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 9:42 pm 
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Well the ute project sort of took a major step forward today.
The Mav passed rego first go so that is one thing out of the way.
At least now I know that I can take the ute off the road to do it all and I dont have to worry about the truck not being able to be used.
Also managed to get a couple of clean XF guards yesterday so I dont have the d**k indicators in the sides of the guards.

 

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More people paid for a ride in a VT commodore then an AU Falcon so the VT is superior.
Based on that fact my Mum is the best around!

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 Post subject: Re: The Ute. Time for the 5.0.
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 5:00 pm 
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Making a slight little detour now. Was going to setup and run the BTR 4 speed auto from the Fairy but then got onto a recently rebuilt V8 C4 for $200. Picking it up tomorrow.
I will lose the overdrive but dont have to stuff around setting up speed sensors and mounting up a BTR. The C4 ratios are better for performance and the aftermarket gear available for them is huge.
I can also then run an aftermarket ratchet shifter :mrgreen: .
For the slight disadvantage in getting rid of the overdrive the benefits are huge. This also leaves me open to the option of fitting the car up on straight LPG later on and completely getting rid of all the EFI setup.

 

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 Post subject: Re: The Ute. Time for the 5.0.
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:19 pm 
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ashcook wrote:
Nice work! I saw a similar one up towards this way for a few about $300 I think it was. You did well. Bring on the straight LPG!!



Most likely the same one. It is coming from up your way.
Guy that has it is bringing it down to Sydney with him tomorrow and I just have to whip across and pick it up off him. If something goes pear shaped with me getting there you might be getting a grovelling and pleading PM :oops: .
See how it goes with the idea of the gas. All depends on time , funds all the usual crap. Im sticking to my last plan but and am still coming up to see you.

 

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