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 Post subject: Re: TimmyA's 93 ED Falcon - Fuel pumps?
Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 4:12 pm 
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sorry for the delay in pics tim.
been flat out and had to figure out where i'd put the photos

mine was a au3 e-gas motor, pretty much au2 got the mls gasket standard. au1 were still the graphite gasket.

the sump after myself and my dad played with it
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its close still but i never had a issue with rubbing
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for some reason mine looked to sit higher.
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lastly fitted in with a serp setup. i was running au tensioner, alt, p\s pump
eb a\c brackets spaced out with el compressor
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 Post subject: Re: TimmyA's 93 ED Falcon - Fuel pumps?
Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:38 pm 
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Many thanks for the intuitive photos!

Did you have to run a special length belt to allow for this? Also with the AC compressor mounted lower, did that belt rub on the tensioner, or did it just appear really close?

Not sure what I'll do with AC compressor yet, whether I run it in the std spot, run it down low out of the road like the ED is (Makes engine access, coil, etc easy), run all AU gear and delete the TX valve accordingly and run the expansion valve instead...

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 Post subject: Re: TimmyA's 93 ED Falcon - Fuel pumps?
Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 6:50 pm 
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Many thanks for the intuitive photos!

Did you have to run a special length belt to allow for this? Also with the AC compressor mounted lower, did that belt rub on the tensioner, or did it just appear really close?

Not sure what I'll do with AC compressor yet, whether I run it in the std spot, run it down low out of the road like the ED is (Makes engine access, coil, etc easy), run all AU gear and delete the TX valve accordingly and run the expansion valve instead...

Cheers,
Tim

no worries. i knew they were somewhere

yes, i did. no rubbing from what i could tell. was just rather close so i took the grinder to the tensioner body and took some metal off to help with clearance.
it wasnt much though, as i didnt want to hurt the structrual integrity of the tensioner

only time mine touched was when i stacked it as i snapped the tensioner in the impact.

i can find the pm i got off devilxr and efgiar off boosted falcon if you would like me to?
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 Post subject: Re: TimmyA's 93 ED Falcon - Fuel pumps?
Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 8:43 pm 
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Timmy, I have an XH belt tensioner here I would be willing to part with.

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 Post subject: Re: TimmyA's 93 ED Falcon - Fuel pumps?
Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 8:58 pm 
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Ah Ok... What's an XH tensioner give me? :oops:

Guessing something with serp and lower mounted AC pump? The tensioners are s**t and end up on the piss on what seems like a regular basis... I'd sooner buy new for that reason, but I don't want something that is rare or unique or impossible to find?

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 Post subject: Re: TimmyA's 93 ED Falcon - Fuel pumps?
Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:01 pm 
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XH utes use the log manifold, with a serpentine belt setup.

The tensioner was unique to the XH as it was designed to clear the throttle body.

They are exxy new, but can be found second hand.

I have not seen a stuffed tensioner myself and personally believe they are a far better alternative to the standard 3 belt setup.

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 Post subject: Re: TimmyA's 93 ED Falcon - Fuel pumps?
Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:07 pm 
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Really? Well the AU motor I bought has a huge separation in the tensioner and the in-laws falcon is wearing the edge of the belt away because it has a C**k eyed tensioner... I feel like the select few falcons I've seen I'm yet to see one with a straight tensioner? Unless I'm unnaturally biased which is always quite possible... :?

I may have to chase up this idea then as it may be the ideal route? I'll run a BBM regardless so issue there... Would sooner keep the AC mounted down low out of the road though where possible... As much as I would like to run a full AU AC system and delete the TX valve...

 

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 Post subject: Re: TimmyA's 93 ED Falcon - Future Plans...
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:28 am 
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my tensioner was straight, im yet to find a one to do weird stuff too as dads el and my sisters nf dont have issues.

but i didnt get to run mine for too long anyways. but in the times mine sustained wot for a few minutes etc. it never gave a issue
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 Post subject: Re: TimmyA's 93 ED Falcon - Future Plans...
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:43 am 
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Oh well next time I'm thinking about it and at the inlaws I'll get a photo of it and the one on my AU VCT motor and post up here...

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 Post subject: Re: TimmyA's 93 ED Falcon - Fuel pumps?
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 7:05 am 
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TimmyA wrote:
Really? Well the AU motor I bought has a huge separation in the tensioner and the in-laws falcon is wearing the edge of the belt away because it has a C**k eyed tensioner... I feel like the select few falcons I've seen I'm yet to see one with a straight tensioner? Unless I'm unnaturally biased which is always quite possible... :?
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timmy if there is seperation in the tensioner, the belt rubbing or its C**k eyed means the tensioner is just about stuffed.
i recently replaced mine due to that problem..
old original tensioner..
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new tensioner.
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 Post subject: Re: TimmyA's 93 ED Falcon - Future Plans...
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 1:04 am 
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To build on that here is the tensioner on the AU motor I purchased...

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And from a bit higher angle:

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Massive difference in gap on this one... Do you know how long your old one lasted for Troy? If they're wearing out faster than the belt then I diss the design... :?

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 Post subject: Re: TimmyA's 93 ED Falcon - Future Plans...
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:11 am 
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that ones cactus!..lol

they last a long time, you will probably find its still the factory tensioner..
our au still has the original tensioner, actually up untill recently i beleive it still had the original belt, had to change it due to cracking.so 11 years/220'000km and is still ok..

the one i replaced on my engine was originally off a ef wreck that had 390'000km so it was well used before i got it, it was a genuine tensioner but i couldnt tell if it had ever been replaced..
a new one should last atleast 150-200'000+km
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 Post subject: Re: TimmyA's 93 ED Falcon - Fuel pumps?
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:36 am 
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TimmyA wrote:
...As far as I was aware BSP is the common tapered pipe thread while NPT was the less common straight cut pip thread... Usually used in bulkhead fittings and that as a nut will screw all the way down while you can then screw a fitting on after the nut... Sort of like hydraulic fittings... I suppose though, there is always the risk that the fitting you screw in wont line up where you want it to go... Sort of one of those, half a turn not tight enough type things...

Cheers,
Tim


It's a bit late but, BSPT stands for British Standard Pipe Taper, and NPT stands for National Pipe Taper, which is the American standard. They are both tapered so that they seal against the threads. The thread pitch is similar but not exactly the same. You can get parallel threaded BSP(P) which has a non-tapered thread like a bolt. These need a bit more sealant but you won't find much of this below 1 1/2".

When you are tapping the thread, have the fitting on hand to periodically check how far it will screw in and you should be right.

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 Post subject: Re: TimmyA's 93 ED Falcon - Future Plans...
Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 10:12 pm 
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Hey Lads,

For the sake of curiosity... For someone like me who is not a welder (and esp can't weld thin metals)... Is this:

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Worth $440?

Is it something that will give $440 worth of improvement? I reckon it does look super tidy, but not sure on the attached price tag... Of is something simpler just as effective?

Like this:

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For like $100-$150?

Not the biggest fan of the 2 inches of chrome into blue silicon bend, into 2 inches of chrome, into silicon bend... Looks tacky... And all the steel edges inside the bends can't helps for catching air...

Thoughts or advice at all?

Cheers,
Tim

 

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 Post subject: Re: TimmyA's 93 ED Falcon - Future Plans...
Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 10:25 pm 
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bang for buck its not worth it.. i cant see any power gains over using a modied factory intake with a length of 3" pipe to airbox..

imo just money for bling..
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