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ToranaGuy wrote: So the EB has been running rough (miss) since it's been back on the road. Been digging around to work out why. Found out that petrol injectors 1 thru 4 can be unplugged when on LPG, it will keep running, but if 5 & 6 are unplugged, it will stumble & stall. Looks like the LPG injection is getting triggers from 5 & 6 injectors. I thought one of them should be injector 1? I better read the manual on the LPG injection.... My system had the pickups for the LPG ECU plug into every petrol injector (because it could be fitted to SEFI) - I simplified it (being bank fire) by joining into the 2 banks - much less wiring around that area. Shouldn't yours run still okay ?? - 5 & 6 are different banks.ToranaGuy wrote: BenJ wrote: Nice Job!I would love to drive a Newish T5 compared to my one.Mine is quite notchy and can be difficult to get into first gear at times.Problem is I don't know if this is 'normal' or not Notchy can be caused by worn teflon tips(replaceable) on the shifter forks or a worn bush in the shifter, it's only a plastic bush where the ball of the shifter goes into the shift rod, difficult to get into gear is usually syncro's that are a tad worn or a clutch that isn't disengaged far enough. The teflon tips are easy to replace, you can even get bronze items for "performance" applications. I couldn't stretch the already blown to hell budget to get them, maybe next rebuild?My box is very tight, but smooth thru the gears. It feels very positive when shifting it.A gear puller & a good size press is required for a rebuild  I'd be thinking you could borrow those to get the job done if you don't already have them. Import the rebuild bits as they are way too expensive down under! I could have bought 2 bearing kits from the USA for what one cost me locally, trade price!Won't be doing that with your input shaft - case hardening is shot, might be good as a door stop  .
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snap0964 wrote: My system had the pickups for the LPG ECU plug into every petrol injector (because it could be fitted to SEFI) - I simplified it (being bank fire) by joining into the 2 banks - much less wiring around that area. Shouldn't yours run still okay ?? - 5 & 6 are different banks. My system can be SEFI or batch/bank fire. Maybe they simplified my install? I can pull any petrol injector connector except 5 & 6 and the engine will keep running, altho rough as it should. Pull either 5 or 6 & it will stall when on LPG, so they are the trigger injectors. Quote: Me thinks his box has copped bit of a flogging at times (let's say I have an 'insight'). You can get by without a press - definately need pullers though. Yeah, bearings very expensive locally - especially the mainshaft. I've found with synchros you can remove burrs with a sharpening stone. Won't be doing that with your input shaft - case hardening is shot, might be good as a door stop .lol it might have, but so has most fordmods members T5's. Yeah my input shaft from the old box is shot, it's good as a clutch alignment tool that's about it lol. I still have not had time to venture into the old box & see how bad the rest of it is. You can get by without a press, but they do make the job seriously easier. Cheapies are fairly cheap at Supercheap auto these days too. I'd be lost without my press! Cheers ToranaGuy
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Now Now Fellas!
I am quite sympathetic with my T5, compared to some. Cheers BenJ
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lol dude. The other night my mate asked me if my ghia was "LSD" when I was giving him a ride home. I didn't dump the clutch hard but I did let it out just nicely as I dropped the right boot into it...smoked up both back tyres & kicked the a*** end out sideways, into the next lane.... that was my reply to the question lol.
Don't worry, the box has loosened up a lot, already have 1,000kms on it & it's shifting so smooth now...... Next job on the card's I think it to do something about the radiator in the mighty boy, getting my new alloy item in there. Well once this FE LTD is running & outta my driveway. Maybe by this sunday. Cheers ToranaGuy
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Got busy today on Mat's LTD, but still missing a couple of parts, even after our wrecker yard run on saturday. Not a lot left to do before it runs again tho.
Also picked up a tx5 turbo drivers seat & fit it to the tx5, so my fiance has matching seats again. Money well spent, saves me time fixing the old seat for now, to spend that time on something else. Cheers ToranaGuy
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ToranaGuy wrote: lol dude. The other night my mate asked me if my ghia was "LSD" when I was giving him a ride home. I didn't dump the clutch hard but I did let it out just nicely as I dropped the right boot into it...smoked up both back tyres & kicked the a*** end out sideways, into the next lane.... that was my reply to the question lol.  hey mate, how much a reco'd t5 cost you? keen to do a conversion, will probably (90% sure) go a second hand box but if the price is right and being im not in the biggest of all rushes, more time=more money, i'd prefer a better conditioned one.
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teeroy wrote: ToranaGuy wrote: lol dude. The other night my mate asked me if my ghia was "LSD" when I was giving him a ride home. I didn't dump the clutch hard but I did let it out just nicely as I dropped the right boot into it...smoked up both back tyres & kicked the a*** end out sideways, into the next lane.... that was my reply to the question lol. hey mate, how much a reco'd t5 cost you? keen to do a conversion, will probably (90% sure) go a second hand box but if the price is right and being im not in the biggest of all rushes, more time=more money, i'd prefer a better conditioned one. The reco was done by myself & my mate Owen. I didn't get it done by a workshop. Costs are listed below Second hand T5 suit reco $150 Bearing kit $310 (trade price from CBC - retail $400-500) Syncro kit $150 (imported from USA, twice the price locally!) New front retainer - genuine ford parts $195 (trade price) New shifter dust boot - genuine ford $50 (trade price) Billet retainer (turned out faulty) $75 (shipped from USA) Oil $30 Bundy (required lol) $70ish (2 bottles) There's a little over $1000 there. I also bought a clutch kit, new gear knob, new shim for the clutch fork, degreaser, and probably something else I forgot about. Oh yeah, lunch for my mate that helped me rebuild it & lunch for my other mate that helped me fit it. Can't remember what that cost, probably $40 or so lol. Not a cheap exercise, and when the box was pulled down the old syncro's were found to be very serviceable, but as I already had new ones, I fit them up anyway. Was it worth it? Yep, as I couldn't get a good second hand box, these things are getting to be around 20 years old after all! Cheers ToranaGuy
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ToranaGuy wrote: Was it worth it? Yep, as I couldn't get a good second hand box, these things are getting to be around 20 years old after all! Plus you know what state the box is in internally.Off Topic: Much metal chips on the magnet ??
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snap0964 wrote: ToranaGuy wrote: Was it worth it? Yep, as I couldn't get a good second hand box, these things are getting to be around 20 years old after all! Plus you know what state the box is in internally.Off Topic: Much metal chips on the magnet ?? The box that was reconditioned - none at all, some very very tiny particles yes. To be expected. The box that was removed from the car? Metal chips on the magnet - only very minor. However, here's the shock. You know what black metallic paint looks like in the tin before you add thinners? Yep, that's what drained out of the bottom of the box!  Cheers ToranaGuy
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Yeah, considering the oil was probably Dex III, no redness, not good.
I suppose people don't realise there is a replacement schedule of around 60000km for the T5 oil.
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snap0964 wrote: Yeah, considering the oil was probably Dex III, no redness, not good. I suppose people don't realise there is a replacement schedule of around 60000km for the T5 oil. I replaced mine every 15,000. I reckon the reason for failure of the gearbox input bearings was excessive overloading of the input shaft, due to towing heavy loads on a number of occasions, as well as more than 200,000 on the gearbox. I also run a heavy duty clutch which doesn't help matters. It had never been opened since it was assembled by borg warner..... it still hasn't aside from pulling the input shaft off for a look see lol. I run dex III in the reco box, have noticed it has developed a slight whine in it recently, yes I also have the additive in there, and a tad over 2ltrs went into the box (dry first fill). Will be dumping the oil when I hit 1500kms & giving it fresh oil, which will probably be another week or so away. On happier notes, tonight the LTD in my driveway lives. We had to bypass some power to the LPG solenoid to get it to run, but it runs, quite well for a xf efi engine lol. Just gotta work out the electrical issue, fit up new heater hoses & a power steering pump, then my mate can move it home again lol. Cheers ToranaGuy
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Been busy working on a few things, noteably helping with little things on the LTD, as well as a little issue on the Ghia. Gave it a wash tonight....
 The LTD & Ghia at the car wash. Cheers ToranaGuy
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Quote: I run dex III in the reco box, have noticed it has developed a slight whine in it recently, yes I also have the additive in there, and a tad over 2ltrs went into the box (dry first fill). Will be dumping the oil when I hit 1500kms & giving it fresh oil, which will probably be another week or so away. what happens if you dont use the additive in dex 3 trans fluid with the t5?
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bry40l wrote: Quote: I run dex III in the reco box, have noticed it has developed a slight whine in it recently, yes I also have the additive in there, and a tad over 2ltrs went into the box (dry first fill). Will be dumping the oil when I hit 1500kms & giving it fresh oil, which will probably be another week or so away. what happens if you dont use the additive in dex 3 trans fluid with the t5?Good question. Not sure to be honest, but the Ford book & T5 rebuild manual both sy to use it. Its some sort of friction modifyer iirc. Cheers ToranaGuy
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