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just grab your self another el engine there troy and she will be as good as new
 just shout out if you need a hand to put it in when ever you get one ok!
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always the same saga with cars when you do them up, always pushing the error out somewhere else when you fix one thing.
i've had my box car (vibr8r previously indeep) since before your gold one i think troy (can't remember that far back lol) since 01/02 and when i bought it it had alreadi had 20k poured into it, i spent bout 6 on it straight off the bat before i even got my licence back and can't come to grips with adding up how much i've spent on it since starting at one point and travelling allll the way back chasing the dramas the new parts created. thats cars  though if i had my time over i wouldve spent the money differently and thats why i've given up getting pink slips etc and bought the bf, so i know where your coming from. sometimes it's time for a change, i'm still going to be spending money on the box car though, coz i still love it! building it with off street meets in mind.sick of drawing the line between outright performance and roadworthyness. that said though, with all the work and money i put into the ea, the bf would still go past it like it was standing still.... till the first corner lol
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{USERNAME} wrote: yea i took the car to where the head was done and after a few tests its the bottom end(rings)...the extra comp from using the au gasket and shaving the head has put to much load on the bottom end. mainly no 3 and no 5 cyl. Is the AU head gasket thinner? Josh |
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yep
the au head gasket is thinner. its a easy way to get alittle more compression.. plus being made of multi layer steel its a much better design compared to the e series one... |
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Ok
so now that im keeping the car ive been looking for a replacement engine but the issue im having is similar to the issue i had finding a good head.. all the wrecker ive tried so far dont have any good el engines and the ones that do, want to much for there engines and they have over 200,000 kms on them  . so now im looking at doing either a au vct conversion or just fitting a std au engine and put my stage2 head on that block..descisions descisions??? |
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{USERNAME} wrote: so now that im keeping the car im looking at doing either a au vct conversion or just fitting a std au engine and put my stage2 head on that block.. I say go the VCT purely so that you may sell me the head cheap...Although I couldn't afford the price to post it to me in NZ so you'd better cancel that. Or, maybe I could buy the head and its cam and everything on drip feed for a while and then slowly pay off some freight. I'd suggest you go the VCT route for another reason too - and that is because you'd actually enjoy mucking around with it and getting it working. |
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troydude do it properly, don't buy another one, get your one (one of) rebuilt, do it properly, you have the new head, give it the block it deserves, not a dirty second hand one.
i've got two ea, one ed and one el block now and want to get the lot tested by atomic to find the best one of the lot and work it hard eventually, after i destroy the one in the car for causing me so much grief hehe. can't seem to kill it so gunna throw another atmosphere of boosted goodness down it's throat, should do the job with some impressive reults. now that i don't rely on it for everyday transport.
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mate don't go vct or au or it will fu*k the aux gears again.
just rebuild a block even if it's just a standered rebuild better then any second hand sh*t.
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well i wasnt going to go au again but after talking to joe (cms) he suggested performance wise im better off but if i was going au bottom end again i should fitt an el aux shaft and the stage 2 head.
so after having a nice conversation with a parts guy at ford and tech guys at ford melbourne it turns out that the aux shaft has the same part number and is and has been the same item from ea to au.. aparently it had become a fairly common thing to fail.. usually due to high kms, badly worn or shonky after market dizzys.. so if i was to replace the aux shaft it would be replaced with the same shaft anyway... im not 100% decided yet but i can get one with under 100,000km fairly cheap.. the reason i dont want to rebuild my bottom end is i dont know what the bore is like.. it could just be glazed and need a hone.. but if its worse than that it will need a re bore.. and i only want to take it off the road for a weekend maximum.. and now narelle has her licence and is doing a full time tafe course i dont have her car or any decent transport.. |
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Please forgive me for my ignorance, but would an engine out of an EF be any better than one that has a dizzy in terms of the extra wear and tear that a dizzy puts on the auxilary shaft?
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bores should of been checked with head change. obvious lip = phuked unit, should be measuring at the top anyway due to taper. which should have been checked at head change, not hard to do.
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{USERNAME} wrote: Please forgive me for my ignorance, but would an engine out of an EF be any better than one that has a dizzy in terms of the extra wear and tear that a dizzy puts on the auxilary shaft? i would say the ef might have slightly less wear on the aux shaft but i cannot seem to find a good one with low kms. pickn payless want $500 exchange for a el engine with 230,000kms ford pro want $800 .i can get a complete car with 200,000km for that much  and most wreckers have heaps of au engines atm. the one i spoke to today said they rarely sell au engines to people who own au's unless they are ex taxis as they dont seem to stuff up that often. except for unlucky people like me who had the aux shaft fail in my first au engine.
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{USERNAME} wrote: bores should of been checked with head change. obvious lip = phuked unit, should be measuring at the top anyway due to taper. which should have been checked at head change, not hard to do. well i asked how the bottom end looked and they said it seemed ok.. but i can only take there word for it as i didnt see it with the head off.. but again the engine was fine untill the head change.. this has been quite frustrating trying to work out why these things happen.(just unlucky i guess) like the au engine that was in my ea  i spent hundreds of dollars on parts and hours of fault finding before i found out the problem was in the aux shaft...thats the reason why i got p****d off and wanted to sell it.. but my friends talked me into keeping it..
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{USERNAME} wrote: yep the au head gasket is thinner. its a easy way to get alittle more compression.. plus being made of multi layer steel its a much better design compared to the e series one... Interesting, do you get a noticable diferance? |
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i'd never take anyones word for it. i only have the luxury of having an engine reco'er for a brother hehe. i'd have asked for that in writing though after dealing with fraud and other penises requarding the longivity of my mechanicals, anyone other than you just doesn't seem to give two phuks, specially if your gunna bring it back to them to fix it.
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