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 Post subject: Re: troymans ed xr6 build.
Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 2:44 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: troymans ed xr6 build.
Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 3:12 pm 
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Hey Troy the cars coming along nicely, let us know how that new shifter goes.

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 Post subject: Re: troymans ed xr6 build.
Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 6:46 pm 
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well....
i got my car back from being dyno tuned this afternoon..
unfortunatly not quite the result that i was expecting..
there are still a few issues..
first issue is what seems to be a possible boosting problem??
its not hitting 10psi.. at all.
and the ba xr6t injectors are still over fueling with heaps of fuel pulled out while being tuned.
and it was suffering a little wheel spin on the dyno which may contribute to the result..

anyway the result so far is 175rwkw :( and 520nm torque :) ..on the cms mainline dyno which is know for not being generous with its results.. :roll:
so in a week or so ill be fitting the std au injectors, and re dyno'd and tuned..

i think it can get a fair bit more out of it.. as before the tune, while it was pinging and leaning out it seemed to have a fair bit more grunt than it does now..
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 Post subject: Re: troymans ed xr6 build.
Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 7:38 pm 
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175rwkw is nothing to turn your nose up at :) , but i agree you should some more out of it.

hope you get a better result after swapping injectors etc.

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 Post subject: Re: troymans ed xr6 build.
Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 7:47 pm 
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Troy, i had the same problem a while back. Try the TL magna 4cly injectors. There bigger again than the au, pick and steal more has miles of magnas. Your running a rising fuel reg yeah? what ratio? Have you upgraded your fuel pump?

Sorry can't be bothered reading back and i can't remember :)

Oh btw its 7 deg BTDC, not ATDC. Had to rub it in :)

 

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 Post subject: Re: troymans ed xr6 build.
Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 7:50 pm 
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OH, and i used a brake booster one way valve to cut boost pressure to the map. You just need a really tiny bleed hole to let the vacuum vent between it and the map, cheap and effective solution.

 

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 Post subject: Re: troymans ed xr6 build.
Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 8:06 pm 
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Troy, i had the same problem a while back. Try the TL magna 4cly injectors. There bigger again than the au, pick and steal more has miles of magnas. Your running a rising fuel reg yeah? what ratio? Have you upgraded your fuel pump?

Sorry can't be bothered reading back and i can't remember :)

Oh btw its 7 deg BTDC, not ATDC. Had to rub it in :)


um no rising rate reg just the au vct reg.
and the fuel pump is a walbro 255.

actually before the tune i had to set the base timing (el ecu)at aproxx 7 deg atdc to stop the pinging..thats right after.. :shock:
not before..lol
now the base timing is set to factory with about 5 deg removed under boost..
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 Post subject: Re: troymans ed xr6 build.
Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 8:13 pm 
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HOLY f**k!!!!

It wouldn't idle at 7deg, i think your balancer may have slipped cause at that reading the piston would be have way down the compression stroke before full ignition.

What ecu do you have? maybe consider getting a rising reg for that extra fuel pressure when your on boost.

 

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 Post subject: Re: troymans ed xr6 build.
Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 8:14 pm 
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What was your AFR?

 

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 Post subject: Re: troymans ed xr6 build.
Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 8:21 pm 
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FLASH wrote:
HOLY f**k!!!!

It wouldn't idle at 7deg, i think your balancer may have slipped cause at that reading the piston would be have way down the compression stroke before full ignition.

What ecu do you have? maybe consider getting a rising reg for that extra fuel pressure when your on boost.


well it idled ok but was very week and was sluggish until it made boost..

im running an el ghia ecu with the std reg..
at the moment joe@cms said its still a bit to rich..
so he recomends using the au 20lb ones and see what happenes..

i havnt got the dyno sheet of him yet..and he didnt say what afr was except its still a bit to rich..?
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 Post subject: Re: troymans ed xr6 build.
Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 8:30 pm 
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you would think the 20lb AU injectors would be running maxed out with a boosted 4L ?
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 Post subject: Re: troymans ed xr6 build.
Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 8:42 pm 
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So how is Joe tuning your ignition for boost? Are you running a J3?

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you would think the 20lb AU injectors would be running maxed out with a boosted 4L ?


The 24lb magna injectors would be better. my afr was 12.5 at 8-10psi. But i had a rising reg as well, and the walbro. I don't think the stock xr reg will cut it at 300 kpa.

 

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 Post subject: Re: troymans ed xr6 build.
Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 9:12 pm 
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FLASH wrote:
So how is Joe tuning your ignition for boost? Are you running a J3?


im using a perfect power smt6 piggyback ecu..
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 Post subject: Re: troymans ed xr6 build.
Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 9:26 pm 
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Is it any good troy? what did it set you back? Shame it can't run the big injectors though.

 

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 Post subject: Re: troymans ed xr6 build.
Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 10:30 pm 
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FLASH wrote:
Is it any good troy? what did it set you back? Shame it can't run the big injectors though.


the smt6 was about $450..
ive read some good things about it and it seems to be very popular in europe..
and it can be tuned on the fly via laptop computer..much cheaper than the chiptorque chip n tune..

at the moment there seems to be no need for the bigger injectors as he is having trouble with it running rich..
ive also got a new set of 36lb injectors aswell

although i might have a short somewhere because as soon as i turn the aircon on the engine floods and stalls :? so ill go see joe tomorrow and see whats going on ....
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